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White Privilege VS POC Disadvantage

Catchall said:
It was Congress that gave women and blacks the right to vote. See the difference? Today, there are more women and people of color in Congress than ever before. It is a logical fallacy to say that because I'm white, I have the power to bestow upon people their right to vote. Clearly, I don't.

Now that said, there are a number of aspects of society -- language, science, math, philosophy, theories of economics, law, civics and government, business practices, religions, arts & cultural traditions, etc. that have been inherited from the cultures of the Europeans who colonized this continent. This can naturally create a bias in favor of the people from these cultural traditions--due simply to their familiarity with it, if nothing else. However, calling this "white privilege" is so vague and obtuse that it doesn't accomplish anything other than to stir up broad racial tensions.

Start by talking about "European cultural heritage and biases" and then debate them one by one, if you want to have a meaningful discussion.

Yes, this country and it's system of government were founded predominantly by men of European descent, but they created a system of government that is supposed to accommodate and represent the people that it serves. If the system is working properly, those people have a voice in it.

And if, by virtue of my being a white male, you still associate me with the people who founded this Republic and finally gave all people the right to vote, then I guess all I can say is, "You're welcome. Sorry it took so long."
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There are not enough women or POC in Congress to pass anything on their own. It still is a white man's game.

The definition of white privilege shouldn't be vague and obtuse if people actually learn a little history and interact with POC. "Inherent advantages possessed by a white person on the basis of their race in a society characterized by racial inequality and injustice" is not really a difficult concept.

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JazzGal said:
This is exactly the problem. White people take the idea of privilege and make it an individual thing (my life is hard; if I can do it anyone can do it, etc). It isn't about you and your life. It is systemic.

And no one is claiming that there are not other forms of prejudices and hardships. But why do white people get upset about this one in particular? It's not a personal failing by having benefited from a system that is in place.

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It's systematic because people are telling others they are not capable because they have no privilege. My entire point is that they are plenty capable. Every single person is capable.

Again I admit I'm privileged. You admit it. Now what? What just changed? Absolutely nothing.
 
JazzyFresh said:
"My entire point is that they are plenty capable. Every single person is capable."

That minorities aren't capable people? Wow...
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Hey **** nugget, it's obvious I was referring to the first sentence. "It's systematic because people are telling others they are not capable because they have no privilege."
 
One Brow said:
I gave a simple answer. However, I can't answer for you what you can change. Only you can answer that. If you choose to change nothing, you won't. That's simple.
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So there's no end game here. Me, as I said in my op I'll just be nice to everyone but privilege still exist. Nothing changes.
 
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