Who should be our the starting guards to start the season?

[Elizah Huge]

Guys there is a 0% chance Sexton is coming off of the bench.

 

[default]

Guys there is a 0% chance Sexton is coming off of the bench.

I hope you are right. I just wonder if we will showcase Conly early to help promote a trade and let Sexton ease into the starting role after rehabbing his knee for almost a year.

 

[outerspacefan]

I hope you are right. I just wonder if we will showcase Conly early to help promote a trade and let Sexton ease into the starting role after rehabbing his knee for almost a year.

It certainly could be the case, but being Conley I think he just got to stay healthy, everybody knows who he is as a basketball player and character.

 

[nateboz]

I believe Conley will be traded after a some random team has an injury to their starting point guard.
A team like the Suns, Clippers, mavs, Denver, bucks. Ect.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

It certainly could be the case, but being Conley I think he just got to stay healthy, everybody knows who he is as a basketball player and character.

Not really. He's coming off a horrific playoff performance. I think the league has legitimate questions as to who he is currently as a basketball player.

 

[KqWIN]

Not really. He's coming off a horrific playoff performance. I think the league has legitimate questions as to who he is currently as a basketball player.

People don’t talk about how brutal that playoff series was for him. Everyone wants to blame Rudy/Don, but Conley and O’Neale we’re both playing 30 MPG and horrendous on both ends.

I’m not even sure if it’s worth it try to play Conley to rehab his value. At his age, it should be expected that he fall of a cliff. He can’t play worse in than he did in the playoffs, but if we play him it likely becomes very clear he’s not a starter anymore.

The Jazz need to find a Bogdanovic type that is trade for him. He has no purpose here.

 

[LogGrad98]

They should start Sexton and Butler. Sexton to get the all-star buzz going and Butler to see what he has and/or embrace the tank.

 

[outerspacefan]

Not really. He's coming off a horrific playoff performance. I think the league has legitimate questions as to who he is currently as a basketball player.

Ok. It's a valid view I guess. It might be doubters.
Allow me to rephrase: There are decision makers out there that knows Conley's basketball abilities and knows last seaason he was part of a discombobulated, outmannered, doomed team.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Guys there is a 0% chance Sexton is coming off of the bench.

Right.The fact that Cleveland seemed content trying to stay under the tax on Sexton projecting him to be at most a 6th man income or less for "them", suggests he was ensured he would get a better shot to start for the Jazz and it made the s/t easier for him to agree to do. He was pretty torn about leaving what he started,but in the end this was his best chance to play and get paid. He doesn't sign the deal and he is still in Cleveland probably since noone else seemed to have anyone the Cavs wanted.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

People don’t talk about how brutal that playoff series was for him. Everyone wants to blame Rudy/Don, but Conley and O’Neale we’re both playing 30 MPG and horrendous on both ends.

I’m not even sure if it’s worth it try to play Conley to rehab his value. At his age, it should be expected that he fall of a cliff. He can’t play worse in than he did in the playoffs, but if we play him it likely becomes very clear he’s not a starter anymore.

The Jazz need to find a Bogdanovic type that is trade for him. He has no purpose here.

People do talk about it plenty. I don't think we will get the Mike from that playoff series when we showcase Mike this year. If we do then great... he will aid the tank and we can waive him next year or trade him as an expiring salary. If he plays well he will show that he didn't forget how to play basketball and still has something in the tank. There are no trades out there that return something more useful for him... his role is as the vet mentor.

Anything we get from Mike in trade or long term value is bonus... if he falls off a cliff then he just doesn't play as much... not a big deal.

 

[KqWIN]

People do talk about it plenty. I don't think we will get the Mike from that playoff series when we showcase Mike this year. If we do then great... he will aid the tank and we can waive him next year or trade him as an expiring salary. If he plays well he will show that he didn't forget how to play basketball and still has something in the tank. There are no trades out there that return something more useful for him... his role is as the vet mentor.

Anything we get from Mike in trade or long term value is bonus... if he falls off a cliff then he just doesn't play as much... not a big deal.

We talk about it here, but 99% of the conversation as to why the Jazz failed centers around Mitchell-Gobert and not around the fact that the Jazz had so many minutes with horrific two way players.

I don't believe the Jazz are trying to win, but I do believe that Conley is going to play. We're not going to get value for him even if he plays non horribly. He is going to take up a roster spot and take lots of playing time. The decision to bench him will almost certainly come to late because, after all, he's Mike ****ing Conley. At this point, I am completely ruling out the idea of trading him for value. I would not keep him in the hopes of getting anything for him, it's a lost cause. I also consider his presence on the team as a negative due to the minutes he will take. He's not much different than Gay, but instead of being toxic and not playing minutes he's still being a professional but also playing minutes. If we do end up benching him, which would be most beneficial for the franchise, he'll probably have the same attitude as Gay....and why wouldn't he?

I would be very open to a Bertans+Powell for Conley+Gay type trade. I don't value these two as vet mentors. Much rather have them gone.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We talk about it here, but 99% of the conversation as to why the Jazz failed centers around Mitchell-Gobert and not around the fact that the Jazz had so many minutes with horrific two way players.

I don't believe the Jazz are trying to win, but I do believe that Conley is going to play. We're not going to get value for him even if he plays non horribly. He is going to take up a roster spot and take lots of playing time. The decision to bench him will almost certainly come to late because, after all, he's Mike ****ing Conley. At this point, I am completely ruling out the idea of trading him for value. I would not keep him in the hopes of getting anything for him, it's a lost cause. I also consider his presence on the team as a negative due to the minutes he will take. He's not much different than Gay, but instead of being toxic and not playing minutes he's still being a professional but also playing minutes. If we do end up benching him, which would be most beneficial for the franchise, he'll probably have the same attitude as Gay....and why wouldn't he?

I would be very open to a Bertans+Powell for Conley+Gay type trade. I don't value these two as vet mentors. Much rather have them gone.

this is a super weird take. Mike and Rudy aren't the same and yes the being toxic vs. being professional is a huge difference.

So we trade Mike/Rudy because he's gonna take minutes away from players to get two other players that will do the same thing. Davis has an extra year that is mostly guaranteed... no thanks. We'd be better off just waiving both of them.

A bunch of guys during media day talked about how Mike was helping them. If he's playing like dog **** he will get benched and understand why. If he plays like he did for 70 games last season or close to it... then he will have some value if there are pg injuries. He will play like 25-28 minutes a night and will be aggressively load managed this year. First 20 games last year he came out looking pretty awesome. He does that this year teams will be tempted to take a chance.