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Ya I kinda thought he had that rep.
Who to pair with Lauri and Keyonte?
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Jazz need a player with some size who can consistently create an advantage for himself off the dribble. It's the ever elusive long, athletic wing or guard with advanced ball skills. I like Keyonte and the skill set he has, but he doesn't consistently break a defense at this stage, and ultimately that's what the Jazz need.
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I think Lauri is an average defender and Keyonte in his best outcomes will only be an average defender (but most likely below average). You need an elite defense and offense to be a contender. The other 3 players and coaching are going to have to do the heavy lifting on defense.
HermanG
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Thats just not true. A lot of good but not great defensive teams have won the chip. Denver being the latest.
Jokic is horrible on perimeter switches and Murray coasts on defense. Porter is pretty meh. Only Gordon and KCP are great, but even they arent DPOY level guys.
DEN is an exception, but even they found a way to play great defense in the playoffs. It could be the case they will never be able to do it again, but in order to win a championship you do have to play great on both ends and they did it. Also, it does not matter if Jokic or Murray is bad in a specific area. If they play good defense, they play good defense and they did.
In any case, I think it's a losing strategy to try to build a contender by ignoring one half of the game. Key and Lauri are not defensive players, for me this conversation needs to start with how we're able to build a strong defense around them.
HermanG
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I do agree they upped their level and team defense in the playoffs, but that doesnt make them all better than average defensive talents.
I definitely agree about the importance of defense. Right now Clarkson is providing us "extra offense" which cuts into Key and Lauri usage.
Replace him with a KCP like guy and we improve our defense a lot without losing too much offense.
enchilada_style
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Giannis
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Here's to hoping we pick up a top 3 player in the league through the draft and he leads us to the championship sometime before I am 60. That's all. I don't care what he looks like or how he plays. I whanna wheeeen.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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He just signed a new deal. I doubt he’s on the table for at least a year or two if ever.
Keefe
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Did Kobe feel like a #1 option in year one? Did Kawhi? Honest questions.
I mean, he's a starter as a rookie. That usually means they are a core piece.
Fosto
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Mostly due to lack of good options. He's a below average starter. I'm not saying he won't pan out, but the suggestion that he's our second star is well premature.
jom2003
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Trey Burke was our starting PG his rookie season and had better numbers than Keyonte across the board.
I really like Key and think he will be an excellent longterm piece for us but just like I said with Kessler last year we shouldn't be making any moves with the expectation for guys with a year or less of experience as if they are sure things. I've seen way too many young players have solid rookie years and then stagnate or regress after that point.
Well maybe that shows you just looking at stats isnt the end all be all.
Fosto
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Even watching the games he doesn't look that good... He gotta be in the bottom 10% of starters. He has potential, but who knows if he's ever an above average starter.