Who will be the starting point guard on opening night?

[silesian]

I also think KO gets traded.

we trade KO and passing goes from bad to worse and this hurts performance and development. I think he sticks.

 

[silesian]

How do you "drive up" the value of someone who's a borderline NBA player (THT) though? I mean, if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

Making matters worse is that fact that the more THT plays in an on-ball role, the more inefficient he gets. That's not exactly a recipe for driving up his value, as we saw from last season. He had zero market after dominating the ball and putting up some gaudy counting stats. Teams know what he is.

He's very young and has upside

 

[silesian]

Here is how i see it IMHO

PG - Clarkson, George, Dunn

SG - Agbaji, Sexton, THT

SF - Makkanen, Fonticchio, Sensabaugh

PF - Collins, Hendricks, Samanic

C - Kessler, Olynyk, Yurtseven

Dunn, THT, Sensabaugh, Samanic, Yurtseven is the best third string in the NBA

 

[silesian]

What make me worry starting Sexton and JC is the lack of passing ability.

And size and defense

 

[silesian]

That's not his role to be a facilitator. He is a scorer not a pass first guard or facilitator. He is capable of asked to but it isn't a permanent thing

well, some do both. Westbrook, Harden, Doncic. of course JC is not in this class, but if he ups his passing game with less tunnel vision it also opens up his scoring as defenses are less likely to collapse.

Y'all remember the pain of watching our second team before JC arrived. I would cheer for the clock and cross fingers to be able to score enough to not blow leads. He had one job: get buckets. It is different now and I think he can continue to adjust.

 

[infection]

I had a dream last night that I was at the first game of the season. It wasn’t Vivint, though. It was like a middle school gym. I’m fact, it was probably more like that tiny fake gym at Bayside. Anyway, someone started, I don’t remember who, but what I do remember is that Collins actually came off the bench. He immediately hit a baseline jumper and there was some “I told ya so”s from the crowd, being premature. Not I told ya so in terms of him coming off the bench, but the idea that he hit his first shot and “I told ya he’d be amazing off the bench” from that one play alone.

All in all, a fairly grounded dream.

 

[Jaymz]

I had a dream last night that I was at the first game of the season. It wasn’t Vivint, though. It was like a middle school gym. I’m fact, it was probably more like that tiny fake gym at Bayside. Anyway, someone started, I don’t remember who, but what I do remember is that Collins actually came off the bench. He immediately hit a baseline jumper and there was some “I told ya so”s from the crowd, being premature. Not I told ya so in terms of him coming off the bench, but the idea that he hit his first shot and “I told ya he’d be amazing off the bench” from that one play alone.

All in all, a fairly grounded dream.

Sounds like a prophecy!

 

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[LogGrad98]

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I love the fire this kid has. Hope everyone has that fire. And if he gets there, I hope his play making is improved. That's what we need. If we get a solid return for Lauri and maybe a break out for Sexton and everyone else plays solidly as expected it could be an exciting year. I'm really looking forward to it.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Yeah, Sexton is going to have that mindset and it might hold his career back. Not a lot of teams are going to want a player like him as a starter compared to how effective he could potentially be as a 6th man. It's why I worry about starting him because he's going to be crushed when Keyonte takes his job the next season.

Sexton is better suited as a starter than Clarkson. He doesn’t hold the ball as much and a more willing passer. And more efficient.

 

[Jingled]

I love the fire this kid has. Hope everyone has that fire. And if he gets there, I hope his play making is improved. That's what we need. If we get a solid return for Lauri and maybe a break out for Sexton and everyone else plays solidly as expected it could be an exciting year. I'm really looking forward to it.

Agreed. I think his fire is needed on this team since a lot of the guys seem to have more laid back personalities. I think both Sexton and the Jazz are going to surprise some people and have a lot better season than most are predicting.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sexton is better suited as a starter than Clarkson. He doesn’t hold the ball as much and a more willing passer. And more efficient.

Ehhhh

 

[Elizah Huge]

The answer to this question has been and always will be Sexton if he’s healthy.

 

[HermanG]

Here is an interesting stat comparison:

Name	Minutes	Total WS	WS/48	BPM	VORP	RAPTOR	WAR
Clarkson	1988	1.7	.042	-1.4	0.3	-0.5	2.2
THT	1313	0.8	.029	-1.6	0.2	-1.3	1.0
Conley	1276	3.0	.113	+0.2	0.7
Sexton	1145	2.5	.105	-1.3	0.2	-0.6	1.3
Dunn	568	1.9	.162	+2.4	0.6	-0.6	0.6

Advanced stats absolutely hate Clarkson and THT and love Dunn. Sexton also solid on all but BPM (and VORP, which is derived from BPM).

Remember that Total WS and WAR are cumulative stats. VORP is also partially cumulative since the formula discounts small samples.

Its wild that Dunn got more total WS than Clarkson with that kind of minute difference.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Here is an interesting stat comparison:

Name	Minutes	Total WS	WS/48	BPM	VORP	RAPTOR	WAR
Clarkson	1988	1.7	.042	-1.4	0.3	-0.5	2.2
THT	1313	0.8	.029	-1.6	0.2	-1.3	1.0
Conley	1276	3.0	.113	+0.2	0.7
Sexton	1145	2.5	.105	-1.3	0.2	-0.6	1.3
Dunn	568	1.9	.162	+2.4	0.6	-0.6	0.6

Advanced stats absolutely hate Clarkson and THT and love Dunn. Sexton also solid on all but BPM (and VORP, which is derived from BPM).

Remember that Total WS and WAR are cumulative stats. VORP is also partially cumulative since the formula discounts small samples.

Its wild that Dunn got more total WS than Clarkson with that kind of minute difference.

I appreciate you including Conley

 

[underdog]

Here is an interesting stat comparison:

Name	Minutes	Total WS	WS/48	BPM	VORP	RAPTOR	WAR
Clarkson	1988	1.7	.042	-1.4	0.3	-0.5	2.2
THT	1313	0.8	.029	-1.6	0.2	-1.3	1.0
Conley	1276	3.0	.113	+0.2	0.7
Sexton	1145	2.5	.105	-1.3	0.2	-0.6	1.3
Dunn	568	1.9	.162	+2.4	0.6	-0.6	0.6

Advanced stats absolutely hate Clarkson and THT and love Dunn. Sexton also solid on all but BPM (and VORP, which is derived from BPM).

Remember that Total WS and WAR are cumulative stats. VORP is also partially cumulative since the formula discounts small samples.

Its wild that Dunn got more total WS than Clarkson with that kind of minute difference.

Obviously the sample size is smaller for Dunn, but we just can't ignore how well he played. His defense sets him apart, and with his experience, he doesn't make many mistakes or poor reads. The dude is also a pretty good playmaker. I'm sure he trains hard this off-season to get a chance to show what he can do.

 

[HermanG]

Obviously the sample size is smaller for Dunn, but we just can't ignore how well he played. His defense sets him apart, and with his experience, he doesn't make many mistakes or poor reads. The dude is also a pretty good playmaker. I'm sure he trains hard this off-season to get a chance to show what he can do.

Yeah its likely his last chance. Im not holding my breath but I am rooting for him.

Would be good to have a guy of his archtype who could provide defense and offensive stability, even if he ends up being a 2nd unit floor general and a backup to whoever starts.

 

[HermanG]

I appreciate you including Conley

I think he is a good reference point. Couldnt get his Jazz-only RAPTOR and WAR since the 538 site doesnt separate player stats between teams.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Here is an interesting stat comparison:

Name	Minutes	Total WS	WS/48	BPM	VORP	RAPTOR	WAR
Clarkson	1988	1.7	.042	-1.4	0.3	-0.5	2.2
THT	1313	0.8	.029	-1.6	0.2	-1.3	1.0
Conley	1276	3.0	.113	+0.2	0.7
Sexton	1145	2.5	.105	-1.3	0.2	-0.6	1.3
Dunn	568	1.9	.162	+2.4	0.6	-0.6	0.6

Advanced stats absolutely hate Clarkson and THT and love Dunn. Sexton also solid on all but BPM (and VORP, which is derived from BPM).

Remember that Total WS and WAR are cumulative stats. VORP is also partially cumulative since the formula discounts small samples.

Its wild that Dunn got more total WS than Clarkson with that kind of minute difference.

It's not that wild when you consider Dunn is the only player of that group who exclusively played during the easiest part of the season.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Obviously the sample size is smaller for Dunn, but we just can't ignore how well he played. His defense sets him apart, and with his experience, he doesn't make many mistakes or poor reads. The dude is also a pretty good playmaker. I'm sure he trains hard this off-season to get a chance to show what he can do.

You just cant start a guy who shoots such a low volume of 3's when you also start Walker Kessler and John Collins.