WI Gubernatorial Recall

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This is the most un-American statement I have ever heard.

You have a strange notion of what is American. It's American to care about the effects your actions will have on your community. It's American to to say we can't forget or leave behind those with harder struggles. It's American to want all boats to raise, instead of leaving the boats with holes to sink. I don't have much respect for your idea of what it means to be an American.

America was built on the fact that if you work hard, if you put in the time and effort, you can accomplish your dreams.

It was also built on the notion that everyone would get a reasonable chance to have the conditions needed to make those dreams happen.

You are saying that a kid who does things right should be penalized because kids around him aren't doing things right.

Not awarding a special privilege is not a punishment.

I do when it's my money that funds them. Public teachers are funded by taxpayers. They should be 100% neutral politically.

Unions get their money from teachers. Restaurant workers who wait on teachers also get their money from teachers. Should they be politically neutral, or is it only the groups you don't like?

Donations? lol. Good one.

When they are voluntary, dues are basically donations. I see you dodged the main point of that sentence.

More so than they are today.

When was this magical time? When you were a kid? Guess what: kids today still respect teachers.

 

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Falling test scores reflect your line of thinking. Congrats.

Because when test scores were higher, all the first-grade teachers knew calculus?

 

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It makes me the expert in regards to my child.

No, it gives you insight into certain aspects of your child. Individual, anecdotal knowledge is very error-prone, and most parents do not understand their children, or their educational needs, as well as people who have training in education.

The concerns and opinions of parent should be represented and to sugest otherwise is pretty extreme in my opinion.

The general concerns of the parent (safe environment, good education, etc.) should be well-represented. The specifics of acheiving those goals (discipline, curriculum, etc.) should be primarily in the hands of people who have studied them.

 

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If anything they should be the ones pushing out bad teachers and bad practices.

You think teachers unions don't work to improve curiculum standards, teaching methods, or with individual teachers to improve their skills? How many have you been a part of?

 

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In addition, if I go to a doctor and don't like something about them I can go get a second opinion or change doctors.

Depending on your health insurance, that second opinion may have to come entirely out of your pocket.

Also, if you don't like a particular teacher, you can often get your kid moved to another classroom in the same school.

 

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Another bad example. A doctor is licensed by the state to practice medicine. A teacher is licensed by....no one.

In what state is that? In the states where I have lived, teachers had to be certified, and had to renew those certifications by showing continuing education.

 

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You want the same privileges as LICENSED PROFESSIONALS? Become a licensed professional.

Professional teachers are certified professionals.

 

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So why can't a public school get the same kind of teachers? I know it's not like this in most cases, but at my school, our teachers were all paid less than the teachers at local public schools.

Private schools self-select, and can gear their curiculum accordingly. Public schools have to take everyone. When private schools agree to take all students (such as charter schools), they do not out-perform public schools overall.

 

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Unions. That's why.

Your ignorance is truly staggering.

 

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I don't quite agree. You hear stories of people overcoming poverty and or f'd up homes to become all the time.

Teachers are not judged by their best student only. Say "Person X did this, so those other 999 people should do it to" is victim-blaming.

 

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"This message is hidden because One Brow is on your ignore list. "

I am even more thankful for ignoring him. Good god

 

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"This message is hidden because One Brow is on your ignore list. "

I am even more thankful for ignoring him. Good god

I am greatly appreciative of the bravery, the intellectual fortitude, and the complete lack of spite involved in not only putting someone on the ignore list, but annoucing that to the entire board as a triumphant decision. Well done, sir!