Will Burks and Kanter get contract extensions?

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The point is, the physical ability/talent just isn't there. If you're starting those two on the perimeter, you'd better have some pretty ****ing good offensive and defensive talent at the other 3 spots on the floor.

Add in a little Burke and you've got yourself a defensive-****-soup.

 

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I think you can have any two from Burke, Burks, and Hayward on the floor IF YOU HAVE A TALENTED PHYSICAL WING TO ROUND THINGS OUT. You need one guy who can guard the opponents' best player. Hopefully he can also shoot threes.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think you can have any two from Burke, Burks, and Hayward on the floor IF YOU HAVE A TALENTED PHYSICAL WING TO ROUND THINGS OUT. You need one guy who can guard the opponents' best player. Hopefully he can also shoot threes.

3 and D?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I actually think Hayward did a lot better job this year defending SF's than he had done in the past. He is definitely the best/most consistent defender of the group

 

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I actually think Hayward did a lot better job this year defending SF's than he had done in the past. He is definitely the best/most consistent defender of the group

...which tells you why we were 30th.

We need two guys who are better defenders than Hay in order to have a chance: one starter, one reserve.

 

[fishonjazz]

Is there any possible way that a good defensive coach could make hayward, burks, and trey better defenders?
Or is being good definsively an uncoachable type thing?

 

[GVC]

I actually think Hayward did a lot better job this year defending SF's than he had done in the past. He is definitely the best/most consistent defender of the group

He was noticeably bigger this season, which helped. He's a much better defender than either Burks or Burke. He's a pretty good transition defender, but he's still slow rotating and closing out on shooters (some of this is foot speed, some is likely motivation and scheme). I don't see him turning into a true halfcourt perimeter stopper.

 

[Doublea]

Is there any possible way that a good defensive coach could make hayward, burks, and trey better defenders?
Or is being good definsively an uncoachable type thing?

If Charlotte can have a top 5 defensive team with Big Al on it, then yes, I believe a better coach will make a big difference.

 

[fishonjazz]

Beal is bigger than Burks. Yes, Burks is taller and longer and weighs more, but Beal is thicker and stronger ("bigger").

I feel like i have been talking to fabtrey........ my head is spinning.

Burks is taller, longer, and heavier........ and smaller.

mind blown.

 

[Stifle Tower]

If Charlotte can have a top 5 defensive team with Big Al on it, then yes, I believe a better coach will make a big difference.

Very good point. There is bad defense due to lack of effort (Boozer) and then there is clueless defense due to lack of knowledge (Jazz). I'm not saying we have an 1st-team NBA defensive players on the Jazz. But they just might be a lot better than we all think.

 

[Deleted member 848]

He was noticeably bigger this season, which helped. He's a much better defender than either Burks or Burke. He's a pretty good transition defender, but he's still slow rotating and closing out on shooters (some of this is foot speed, some is likely motivation and scheme). I don't see him turning into a true halfcourt perimeter stopper.

I'd argue the reverse-- I'd say it's mostly motivation and scheme, and less-so foot speed.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I feel like i have been talking to fabtrey........ my head is spinning.

Burks is taller, longer, and heavier........ and smaller.

mind blown.

yeah GVC's use of 'bigger' is hilariously ambiguous. You've been pretty fair in your posts, Fish.

Just use a different word, and carry on bro (talking to GVC here).