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Will Donovan Mitchell surpass Stockton/Malone careers with the Jazz?

Will Donovan Mitchell surpass Stockton/Malone's career with the Jazz?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 46.3%
  • No

    Votes: 29 53.7%

  • Total voters
    54
Absurd we're even talking about this. Stockton, Malone, and Jerry are deities in the state of Utah.

Says a lot about the kid. #superstar
I knew some of the reactions to this question would kind of be “how dare you”......from some which is completely reasonable. Donovan is 1 year in, but I think the thought has crossed nearly all or minds as to how great he may become and what he may do here. The fact the poll is as close as it is, says a lot about how much people like and believe in Donovan, especially to even probably an unreasonable level already.
 
APB on PGAB. We need you!!!!!!!! Will fetus DM grow to surpass statue 1 and statue 2? Only you can tell us.

Please advise.
 
APB on PGAB. We need you!!!!!!!! Will fetus DM grow to surpass statue 1 and statue 2? Only you can tell us.

Please advise.
We really don’t. He doesn’t have any idea. We would all talk circles around his type of dribble, we would out hoop him, and all better looking, we know everything, he knows nothing, has anyone even seen his Passafire, he’s crying and can’t stop. Also, his baby blanket if you can find it.
 
We really don’t. He doesn’t have any idea. We would all talk circles around his type of dribble, we would out hoop him, and all better looking, we know everything, he knows nothing, has anyone even seen his Passafire, he’s crying and can’t stop. Also, his baby blanket if you can find it.
Are you PGAB? Are you retired? Help me PGAB, you're my only hope.
 
He's got to win a title. If he wins a title he passes them if he doesn't win one he cant pass them because the records they set are all time great. Malone 2 MVP's and 2nd all time in scoring and Stockton All time leader in 2 of the 5 main statistical categories.
 
He's got to win a title. If he wins a title he passes them if he doesn't win one he cant pass them because the records they set are all time great. Malone 2 MVP's and 2nd all time in scoring and Stockton All time leader in 2 of the 5 main statistical categories.

Just because he wins a title doesn’t mean he’s better


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I think the following would need to occur for Mitchell to be viewed as surpassing Stockton and Malone (not necessarily in order of importance):

1) Longevity with the franchise. At least 10 years, and ending his career here is best.
2) Popularity. He is already mostly on par with Stock and Malone, and ahead of them in this regard in lots of ways. He is far more likable than either Stock or Malone really ever were. Stock was too stoic, Malone too, idk, full of himself maybe? Malone was at least an entertaining interview, Stock was a good all around guy that just didn't say much. Mitchell has that positive outlook and cares about the community and that goes a long way.
3) High level of personal performance. Not expecting him to beat the stats that Stock and Malone put up, both of Stock's records are going to be damn near impossible to repeat let along beat, and it is a bit much to ask for Mitchell to be the 2nd leading scorer in league history. But he need to put up solid numbers across the board, and do it consistently. A consistent 22 ppg, maybe higher (Malone averaged 25 ppg for this career), 4 asst, 4 boards, 2 steals, etc. This is a combination of single game/single season/career stats.
4) Win - regular season. Has to carry us to multiple winning seasons, threatening the top teams in the league for regular season wins. Needs to top 60 wins a few times.
5) Win - playoffs. Has to lead the team to multiple playoff appearances, with many series wins. Needs to make the conference finals a few times. Needs to be the decisive playoff leader in this pursuit. Good news is he has one season of this under his belt already.
6) Win - championship? If he wins one, and that is all he does, say in year 5, and has #2 on this list wrapped up, and the very next year bolts for another super-team, where would he fall? Would the ring be enough to surpass Stock and Malone? Personally I don't think so. It puts him solidly in 3rd place on the all-time Jazz list with this achievement alone, but he needs a couple more on this list to really surpass the statues and get his own. It would be enough to get a jersey retired definitely, but not a statue.

So right now, in comparison to Stock and Malone, I give him this rating, point by point on the list above:

Completely arbitrary rating scale:
-3 = solidly behind stock and malone
-1 = gaining ground, pretty close, but still behind
0 = on par or not applicable (yet)
+1 = a bit ahead
+3 = well ahead of the statues

#1: -3
#2: 0
#3: -3
#4: -1 (giving him credit for nearly single-handedly turning around what should have been one of our worst seasons)
#5: -3
#6: 0

Total score = -10

Score needed to match Malone and Stockton = -2 to 3
Score needed to "surpass" Malone and Stockton (probably enough for the statue) = 6-12 (and no more than 1 negative category, 0 is ok)
Score needed to become the Jazz Legend of ancient mythology = 15+ (no negative categories, no more than 1 @ 0)


(scores of 4, 5, 13, and 14 are somewhat ambiguous depending on the number of negative categories)
 
He's got to win a title. If he wins a title he passes them if he doesn't win one he cant pass them because the records they set are all time great. Malone 2 MVP's and 2nd all time in scoring and Stockton All time leader in 2 of the 5 main statistical categories.
If he wins a title, he certainly will have an aspect to him that the franchise has never seen obviously. Donovan/Rudy holding an NBA title doesn't mean Stockton and Malone aren't two all time greats that set records that will likely not be touched and did things very few players do. I think Donovan has a chance to be really, really, really special in so many more ways than one. Donovan is someone that the longer he's here, if he stays the guy he is, is going to be one of if not the most loved public figures ever in the state. Because after just one year, when you think he's kind of impressed you the most he can, he does something else.

If Donovan stays with the franchise for over 10 years, or even his career, takes the Jazz to a finals a couple times, possibly wins a title, and continues to wrap the Jazz fan base and community around his finger by just being himself, while also growing the Jazz brand and his brand to a worldwide level like no other player here, that's a part of it. I'm not even sure he has to win the title. Idk what his career from here looks like, I just know what he's done in one year, and it is impressive beyond any first year that has ever been played for this franchise, both in the community and on the court. I do like hearing things like he said at his camp, and he's said several times that "I plan on being here a long time". We will see, but if he is here a long time, I gotta say, I don't really doubt what lies ahead with Donovan. He was built for greatness in every way. The absolute only thing that could curtail whats ahead with him is some injury. Knock on wood that never happens.
 
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