Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?
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Red
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Yeah, he gave away what he really believed, and of course regretted it. But so much evidence supporting all three conditions of an obstruction count would make Trump liable for prosecution if the government chose to go that way. But he would need to lose in 2020. With the expanding effort by Trump to consolidate control over the GOP, the Justice Dept., and now the Intelligence community, it would not surprise me if he did everything needed to make sure he does not lose in 2020. Hope I'm wrong, but I expect him to somehow find a way to make sure he does not lose in 2020.
Zombie
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That's actually the point. He doesn't have prosecutorial authority over the president, hence why he had to walk the statement back.
Red
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Mueller changed his answer out of the "fairness principle" he acted from, from day one of his investigation. So I can appreciate he wanted to change his answer. However, more then 1000 former federal prosecutors, after reading the 10 or 11 instances of possible obstructuon described by Mueller, signed a joint statement stating the evidence they saw in Mueller's report was sufficient, in their opinion, to bring obstruction of justice charges to any individual described as acting the way Mueller described in the obstruction evidence he included in part 2 of his report. Does not mean Trump would be found guilty. A person is innocent until proven guilty. But, 1000+ former federal prosecutors signing such a statement is enough for me to conclude such charges could be filed against Trump.
But, would that happen, if he loses in 2020? I don't know if it would be the best thing to do in the aftermath of what will likely be the wildest campaign season of our lifetime. Not sure if the country should go down that road or not.
But you're certainly not bursting any bubbles of mine, no idea why you even feel that way. Nor do I much care....
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jazzrule
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Where are all the comments on this video
Revealed: Mueller Didn’t Interview Russiagate Originator
How can Mueller and his team charge a former general with 33 years of service for getting one thing wrong in his interview, after telling him he did not need a lawyer. The 2 FBI agents that interviewed the general said in their report they thought he was being truthful.
But we don't charge the guy that started this mess and lied 3 times to the FBI? No comments from the liberal and never Trump gang on here! Pathetic just pathetic. And you accuse us conservative of putting out head in the sand.
Revealed: Mueller Didn’t Interview Russiagate Originator
How can Mueller and his team charge a former general with 33 years of service for getting one thing wrong in his interview, after telling him he did not need a lawyer. The 2 FBI agents that interviewed the general said in their report they thought he was being truthful.
But we don't charge the guy that started this mess and lied 3 times to the FBI? No comments from the liberal and never Trump gang on here! Pathetic just pathetic. And you accuse us conservative of putting out head in the sand.
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Hotdog
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If you notice they do that with all the facts. They ignore them like they dont exist. Refuse to discuss rationally or discuss even at all.
I mean why would they. It would destroy everything they have been arguing for.
They arent in this for truth. The TV and papers tell them what to think. If they deviate they arent part of the club anymore. Then they will be racist, in their view of themselves, because thats how there fouled up logic works. If the liberal news outlets refuse to speak in facts and fairly then they just follow the lead and assume that is an ok way to conduct themselves. Its actually quite frightening watching this all unfold. We literally cant agree on simple facts or things that are not even arguable. Quite literally we are dealing with Zombies.
I will give you the perfect example: They keep throwing around this idea that the president hasnt been exonerated. Even though it has been beat into the ground that it has no legal meaning. It means absolutely nothing. Yet they keep using it as the crux of there argument pretending that it hasnt been squashed as a stupid and baseless argument already. @Red just posted a commercial with it because he thinks it actually proves something. Its like dealing with children.
Papadopolous was charged.
1) Blame Trump, who first claim that the report exonerated him. The media would not need to point out this is a lie, if there were no lie to point out.
2) Mueller specifically said that if there were no reason to believe Trump obstructed justice, he would have said so.
3) Mueller also said that, based on the evidence in his report, Trump could be charged if he left the Presidency in 2021.
The media will stop talking about how Trump has not been exonerated when Trump and his supporters stop claiming he has been.