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Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

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Alfalfa said:
Children are generally socialized through their parents. That includes politics and ideology. I think "milk" is as valid an argument as any. As for tactfulness, I don't know if it's specially effective. It might be. But some of the people who had the most impact on my thinking were neither tactful nor nice about it. But I suppose it depends on the kind of discussion and the type of person.

But being tactful and not getting into heated arguments would preserve one's own sanity. So there's that.

And milk is great btw.
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Are you making milk great again?

Barf!
 
I too love milk. But I try to drink it in moderation since it costs more than water and isn't as healthy as water. So I drink 90% water, 7% milk (that's some fat *** milk lol) and 3% other.

Oh **** I forgot alcohol. I'm gonna have to start over.....

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Interesting.

Trump world is arguing both that:

A. The Mueller probe exonerated Trump.
B. The Mueller probe was an unethical witch hunt.

Which... it can’t be both. Trumpworld claiming both is just gaslighting America to the point where we don’t care what actually happened anymore but that we just want it to go away.

Something else of note: McConnell just blocked Schumer’s vote to make the report public.

@Bulletproof tell me again why we shouldn’t vote straight party democrat these days
 
Yeah, the basic lesson is that you need to understand the person you're arguing with beyond the discussion you're having. If you put them on the defensive they are likely yo ignore the majority of what you say. You have to find a way to talk to them in their vernacular. You have to give credibility to the things they believe that will ultimately help you make the point you're trying to make. If you are able to find that common ground, open that door, you can do a lot more with a lot less.

I'm sure in academic environments people are challenged head-on a lot more. That's part of the process. That approach doesn't work as well in the break room as it does the lecture hall, or amongst people actively exploring ideas for the sake of understanding. Most people aren't doing that. Most people come in with their armor on and their sword poised, because they are pretty sure they are going to "win" the argument. They lead with their best series of moves and parry the predicted responses. Then both sides sit there looking at each other. Neither side scored a point.

There's a way beyond that, and it is to express a sincere understanding of where they are coming from and validating their base assumptions, then expressing why a conclusion based on those assumptions is contradictory to the core of their beliefs. That's how you score points. That's how you change minds.
 
Folks, we can argue another day over what the proper percentage of taxation should be. Right now one party is still trying to “democracy” while the other has completely given up and is now acting as a cult, covering for a wannabe dictator. There’s a reason why those in my profession (history/political science) and intelligence have been sounding the alarm for several years now.

Are we listening?

Trump’s disinformation campaign, the GOP, and our gullible media is shredding our democracy right now. I don’t know if we’ll really find out more about the Mueller probe than what we know today from Barr. Seeing the media today repeat trumpworld’s “exoneration” claim is so disheartening. Seeing Trumpworld play the country (again) really makes me wonder if he’ll he beaten in 2020. The way CNN, MSNBC, and The NY Times just roll over before him without asking any thought provoking questions is just sad for democracy.
 
The Thriller said:
Folks, we can argue another day over what the proper percentage of taxation should be. Right now one party is still trying to “democracy” while the other has completely given up and is now acting as a cult, covering for a wannabe dictator. There’s a reason why those in my profession (history/political science) and intelligence have been sounding the alarm for several years now.

Are we listening?

Trump’s disinformation campaign, the GOP, and our gullible media is shredding our democracy right now. I don’t know if we’ll really find out more about the Mueller probe than what we know today from Barr. Seeing the media today repeat trumpworld’s “exoneration” claim is so disheartening. Seeing Trumpworld play the country (again) really makes me wonder if he’ll he beaten in 2020. The way CNN, MSNBC, and The NY Times just roll over before him without asking any thought provoking questions is just sad for democracy.
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I don't know. I'd say when someone gets a victory let them have their victory lap.

To my dismay, Trump won the Muller probe.

GG Trump, GG.
 
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