Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

[Joe Bagadonuts]

What?

When did this happen?

I met him and some other Jazzfanz at a bowling alley to watch a game. It was a fun night. We talked about our families a little bit. Soon afterwards, in an apparent effort to diminish my position in a disagreement he made some claims about things he "knew" about me and my family. The claims were completely fabricated.

In this thread we were talking about these sorts of ethics in regards to Trump. I agree that there is a lot to dislike about him, especially for people who oppose his political agenda. But it is a huge mistake to become willing to throw ethics out the window in your desire to cut him down at the knees. I believe that certain high-ranking government bureaucrats fell into a trap like this, and that the sudden interest on the left to keep all of this information classified is not because the secrets will hurt our national security in any way, but because they could become extremely embarrassing for some of their heroes.

 

[fishonjazz]

I met him and some other Jazzfanz at a bowling alley to watch a game. It was a fun night. We talked about our families a little bit. Soon afterwards, in an apparent effort to diminish my position in a disagreement he made some claims about things he "knew" about me and my family. The claims were completely fabricated.

In this thread we were talking about these sorts of ethics in regards to Trump. I agree that there is a lot to dislike about him, especially for people who oppose his political agenda. But it is a huge mistake to become willing to throw ethics out the window in your desire to cut him down at the knees. I believe that certain high-ranking government bureaucrats fell into a trap like this, and that the sudden interest on the left to keep all of this information classified is not because the secrets will hurt our national security in any way, but because they could become extremely embarrassing for some of their heroes.

I for one don't oppose Trump's political agenda. I don't even know what it is.

Who are the heroes you speak of? I can't think of a single politician or government official that I think of as a hero.

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[Gameface]

I gave Joe a heartfelt and sincere apology for things I said that were out of line.

He didn't accept the apology, that's his business.

But I didn't really make up rumors, Joe. I said things that were mean.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I for one don't oppose Trump's political agenda. I don't even know what it is.

Who are the heroes you speak of? I can't think of a single politician or government official that I think of as a hero.

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I'm talking about guys like Comey, Clapper, Strozk, etc. I know that they aren't your heroes, but they have clearly been heroes of many on the left. There are members of this site who sang the praises of Strozk even as evidence came out making it obvious that he shouldn't have been on the case. His claims that he handled the investigation professionally are laughable.

 

[One Brow]

His claims that he handled the investigation professionally are laughable.

Which you will no doubt justify by providing unprofessional actions performed in the course of the investigation (as opposed to when tweeting a lady who caught his eye).

 

[str8line]

I'm talking about guys like Comey, Clapper, Strozk, etc. I know that they aren't your heroes, but they have clearly been heroes of many on the left. There are members of this site who sang the praises of Strozk even as evidence came out making it obvious that he shouldn't have been on the case. His claims that he handled the investigation professionally are laughable.

Comey turned the election for Trump but he's a hero of the left?

 

[silesian]

Haha. Hilarious. I dont want to change the subject. This is just about to get good. Can you say declassification? Dont cry about it either. We want transparency.

Does anyone know what NPC is babbling about?

 

[One Brow]

Does anyone know what NPC is babbling about?

I believe he thinks that people oppose the Barr investigations into the Russia investigations for some reason other than them being obvious political payback, and that Democrats are actually worried about what will be discovered.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I gave Joe a heartfelt and sincere apology for things I said that were out of line.

He didn't accept the apology, that's his business.

But I didn't really make up rumors, Joe. I said things that were mean.

Apology accepted. Doesn't mean I can't see the difference between your character and your claims about your character, though.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Which you will no doubt justify by providing unprofessional actions performed in the course of the investigation (as opposed to when tweeting a lady who caught his eye).

Why? Because it's okay to suggest you will use your position to attempt to prevent someone from getting elected as long as you are doing it to try to bed someone else's wife? It's okay to brag that you've been discussing an "insurance policy" with your higher ups using government phones as long as the person you're telling is your secret lover?

 

[silesian]

I believe he thinks that people oppose the Barr investigations into the Russia investigations for some reason other than them being obvious political payback, and that Democrats are actually worried about what will be discovered.

Oh, that drivel. He still thinks I’m pro democrat I guess. Some people never learn.

 

[Hotdog]

I believe he thinks that people oppose the Barr investigations into the Russia investigations for some reason other than them being obvious political payback, and that Democrats are actually worried about what will be discovered.

When there is insufficient evidence to prove someone committed a crime, are they...?

A. Presumed innocent

Or

B . Presumed guilty