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Woj: Celtics working to land both Gordon Hayward and Paul George

**** Hayward if he leaves. He's going to have major regret leaving with what everyone around him has built and made for him here.
 
Is it really savage? I think it's a nice gesture to recognize the letters. I also would be surprised if Hayward (or the Hayward's) have their decision made before any meetings.

Recognizing the letters BEFORE free agency and then leaving would definitely be savage.
 
Can we get a bunch of those kids in the childrens hospital to send him a video... those Jazz hospital visits always make me misty... lets really turn it on... then we enlist the help of some puppies and maybe some small monkeys... like the ones that ride dogs at NFL halftime shows.
 
So CP3 met with the Clips today... I sure as hell hope DL is meeting with Hayward prior to July 1... I hope they talking every damn day. You would never know though because we are straight stealth mode most of the time.

I would hope that the reason Hayward hasn't opted out yet is to communicate with DL about the draft, FA, possible trades, and so forth.
 
Hayward gets to be the #1 option in a system custom-made for him, playing with Rudy Gobert. He's about to get paid $170M, with continued All Star appearances and deep post-season runs every year. Plus, the young talent that the Jazz have in Mitchell, Exum and Bradley is honestly as good as the young talent that the Celtics have. Mitchell, in particular, is going to be a stud.

If Hayward really wants to give all this up, it has to be to play with a specific player that he admires, like Anthony Davis or Kawhi Leonard. Otherwise, it's just a lateral move at best. The Celtics and the Heat, as much as they posture, just aren't set up for him.

If the Celtics wanted to recruit Hayward, they should have a) drafted Fultz, b) moved IT to a 6th man role, and c) traded for Butler. Then they could argue that they have a real contender in the Eastern Conference -- Fultz/Butler/Hayward/Horford/Zizc with IT as a 6th man of the year. But for whatever reason, the Celtics didn't do it.
 
Hayward gets to be the #1 option in a system custom-made for him, playing with Rudy Gobert. He's about to get paid $170M, with continued All Star appearances and deep post-season runs every year. Plus, the young talent that the Jazz have in Mitchell, Exum and Bradley is honestly as good as the young talent that the Celtics have. Mitchell, in particular, is going to be a stud.

If Hayward really wants to give all this up, it has to be to play with a specific player that he admires, like Anthony Davis or Kawhi Leonard. Otherwise, it's just a lateral move at best. The Celtics and the Heat, as much as they posture, just aren't set up for him.

If the Celtics wanted to recruit Hayward, they should have a) drafted Fultz, b) moved IT to a 6th man role, and c) traded for Butler. Then they could argue that they have a real contender in the Eastern Conference -- Fultz/Butler/Hayward/Horford/Zizc with IT as a 6th man of the year. But for whatever reason, the Celtics didn't do it.

Really great points. I do think the Celtics are able to make a little stronger pitch to sell it as not just a lateral move. If you consider they were at the same level or better than the Jazz without him, they have many different directions they can take the franchise and I know it gets overstated but just being on a contending team in the East may be the best chance any team could have not named the Warriors.
 
Also, Paul George isn't going to give up millions of dollars and a chance to be a franchise player for the Lakers in order to join IT, Horford and Hayward in Boston. If he were, there would be press releases coming from Paul George's agent saying Paul George would love to play in Boston with Gordon Hayward. George would be lobbying Hayward to go to Boston and make this happen.
 
Really great points. I do think the Celtics are able to make a little stronger pitch to sell it as not just a lateral move. If you consider they were at the same level or better than the Jazz without him, they have many different directions they can take the franchise and I know it gets overstated but just being on a contending team in the East may be the best chance any team could have not named the Warriors.

Yeah, but the Celtics aren't better than the Jazz. If the Celtics played in the Western Conference and had to play the elite teams in the west 3 or 4 time per year instead of 2, they would be a 48-win team and probably a 6th or 7th seed. The only real advantage the Celtics have is that they're in the Eastern Conference. Their talent level isn't really better than the Wizards or Raptors. The Raptors actually looked better than the Celtics when they played head to head.
 
it doesn't matter what I think. When you're defining a player's floor, and you have 2 years of evidence, then you can work with that to define the floor. The better question, at this point, is why you're making this point so ****ing difficult.

ok lets put it in English for the chemically affected in the room. If you think his floor will be what he's done in the first two years given his experience level and injury i think that's nuts. There's a good chance he might not be that great in the end but i just can't see him possibly staying that lame. Feel free to have your own opinion. Move on.
 
Robyn Hayward posted this on Instagram. It's letters from a junior high class writing to Gordon Hayward asking him to stay:

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That's awesome. Give that teacher a raise!
 
Statistics say otherwise. He was more up and down but overall he outplayed him. Mack got more minutes, especially early because the coaching staff valued consistency.

Not exactly... Exum ended up playing more minutes than Mack for the season. Still not enough IMO, but yeah...

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