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Woj: Don to the Cavs for Markkanen, Agbaji, Sexton, three unprotected 1sts, two swaps, and a partridge in a pear tree.

The narrative being sold by Woj is telling you Rose thought he had more time and was ****ing around trying to get a discount. Now he's like "I definitely offered stuff in July way better than what Cavs did... even though none of the story is true at all."
 
It’s a little rough to consider that the Jazz could’ve closed on a stronger deal from NY in the end if Danny would’ve went back for a counter. I understand that maybe part of the offer was not going back to New York, but I’ve got a nagging feeling Ainge moved with such speed out of spite.

Closing on the big Lakers package is imperiled as a consequence. And yeah, two unprotected Knicks picks is probably actually better since they still wouldn’t have been very good and needed to get lucky to get the next star to take the next step.

Jazz were primed to get off to strong start after the draft this year with the Knicks and another 2023 pick, we obviously don’t get those.

I guess it’s time to do everything possible to top-out on the Lakers deal and find more ways to needle the Knicks for ****ing this.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The internet would tell you it was a meniscus tear if you asked it. So it is in either case way less serious, especially with how he approached treatment (do the repair surgery and sit rather than cut out the torn piece to get back sooner).
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Sip was correct, it was his MCL, which is one of two meniscus in the knee (Medial or MCL and Lateral or LCL). I believe the MCL recovery is slightly easier than the LCL, and also more common.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It’s a little rough to consider that the Jazz could’ve closed on a stronger deal from NY in the end if Danny would’ve went back for a counter. I understand that maybe part of the offer was not going back to New York, but I’ve got a nagging feeling Ainge moved with such speed out of spite.

Closing on the big Lakers package is imperiled as a consequence. And yeah, two unprotected Knicks picks is probably actually better since they still wouldn’t have been very good and needed to get lucky to get the next star to take the next step.

Jazz were primed to get off to strong start after the draft this year with the Knicks and another 2023 pick, we obviously don’t get those.

I guess it’s time to do everything possible to top-out on the Lakers deal and find more ways to needle the Knicks for ****ing this.
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Why covet more ‘23 picks over picks that can be assets any time over the next 5-7 years? I understand it’s a deep draft, but we already have 3 picks.

If we got another one or two from NY, we’d just have a bunch of mid to late first round picks as the only one with any real lottery potential is our own. And teams haven’t had success lately bundling later picks to trade up into the lottery.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It’s a little rough to consider that the Jazz could’ve closed on a stronger deal from NY in the end if Danny would’ve went back for a counter. I understand that maybe part of the offer was not going back to New York, but I’ve got a nagging feeling Ainge moved with such speed out of spite.

Closing on the big Lakers package is imperiled as a consequence. And yeah, two unprotected Knicks picks is probably actually better since they still wouldn’t have been very good and needed to get lucky to get the next star to take the next step.

Jazz were primed to get off to strong start after the draft this year with the Knicks and another 2023 pick, we obviously don’t get those.

I guess it’s time to do everything possible to top-out on the Lakers deal and find more ways to needle the Knicks for ****ing this.
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So I think what happened here is Cavs made their best offer and basically told the Jazz they couldn't just shop it or use it as leverage. I just don't think the Cavs offer is there if we go to NY again and say "beat it!" You have to negotiate in good faith... not just for leverage. Cavs pulled out once already.

If you go to them and say give me everything and they say okay... then you should close the deal. I also think the sign and trade element complicates it a bit.

There is also a slight twinge of spite here for sure. Not just about the negotiation but everything surrounding the recruitment of Don. If some ******* messed with you for years then made a fair offer on your house... you might take a little less to give your house to someone else. That guys should also know that he may have to come with an above market price to atone for his BS.

Knicks Castanza'd this **** so hard.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
Sip was correct, it was his MCL, which is one of two meniscus in the knee (Medial or MCL and Lateral or LCL). I believe the MCL recovery is slightly easier than the LCL, and also more common.
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Where are you getting this from?

"M" is for medial, not meniscus, “L” means ligament (cruciate [C] ligament in this case). Ligaments are connective tissue that connect bones (a structural REQUIREMENT for basic function), meniscus are padding on the insides of the knee.
 
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I’m a little surprised the Cavs traded Markannen instead of Okoro. I know he has some upside still but Okoro hasn’t been very good.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It’s a little rough to consider that the Jazz could’ve closed on a stronger deal from NY in the end if Danny would’ve went back for a counter. I understand that maybe part of the offer was not going back to New York, but I’ve got a nagging feeling Ainge moved with such speed out of spite.
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Utah did and the Knicks retorted by stripping out the framework to something insultingly low, which has been par for the course with Rose. Sometimes it's best to take your business elsewhere when the other party isn't serious.

The Knicks maybe could have done better, but the Cavs package is far better than what the final offer was from New York.
 
Ujfanatic said:
Why covet more ‘23 picks over picks that can be assets any time over the next 5-7 years? I understand it’s a deep draft, but we already have 3 picks.

If we got another one or two from NY, we’d just have a bunch of mid to late first round picks as the only one with any real lottery potential is our own. And teams haven’t had success lately bundling later picks to trade up into the lottery.
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The depth of a draft has a dramatic impact on the value of a mid-round pick and this one was supposed to be deep. Furthermore, I think that Knicks pick is lottery and maybe top-10.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I’m a little surprised the Cavs traded Markannen instead of Okoro. I know he has some upside still but Okoro hasn’t been very good.
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Markkanen’s deal might be slightly negative, though. Markkanen’s fit was also comical due to how insane their big depth was.
 
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