Woj: Don to the Cavs for Markkanen, Agbaji, Sexton, three unprotected 1sts, two swaps, and a partridge in a pear tree.

[LogGrad98]

no other team is asking for as much as the jazz are for their players

In negotiation that is usually the best way to get what you want. Ask for it no matter how insane it sounds. Big mistake people make is trying too hard to hit the compromise sweet spot up front rather than just asking for what they really want. I got almost 8k off the price of my car by doing that. Ainge has perfected it. He is a true master of the craft.

 

[LogGrad98]

At least Sexton has a good attitude about the trade...
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Ok, nobody tell him about the racists!

 

[Elizah Huge]

In negotiation that is usually the best way to get what you want. Ask for it no matter how insane it sounds. Big mistake people make is trying too hard to hit the compromise sweet spot up front rather than just asking for what they really want. I got almost 8k off the price of my car by doing that. Ainge has perfected it. He is a true master of the craft.

Exactly. What is he suggesting we do? Start off with what we’re willing to accept?

 

[jaydhn]

In negotiation that is usually the best way to get what you want. Ask for it no matter how insane it sounds. Big mistake people make is trying too hard to hit the compromise sweet spot up front rather than just asking for what they really want. I got almost 8k off the price of my car by doing that. Ainge has perfected it. He is a true master of the craft.

it's not about asking for less. it's about only settling for the moon. which is why, anyone that deals with ainge will lose. it's smart to avoid him at all costs unless you feel you are that 1 piece away

 

[LogGrad98]

it's not about asking for less. it's about only settling for the moon. which is why, anyone that deals with ainge will lose. it's smart to avoid him at all costs unless you feel you are that 1 piece away

That is the second missed tool in the negotiators tool-box....get up and leave. You want the best price on a car, for example? 1) do your homework, know what you want and how much it is possible to get it for and set your price, 2) confidently ask for what you want, 3) don't let them go back and forth more than twice before you just get up and walk away. That is the strongest tool you have and Ainge played that part perfectly.

 

[jaydhn]

That is the second missed tool in the negotiators tool-box....get up and leave. You want the best price on a car, for example? 1) do your homework, know what you want and how much it is possible to get it for and set your price, 2) confidently ask for what you want, 3) don't let them go back and forth more than twice before you just get up and walk away. That is the strongest tool you have and Ainge played that part perfectly.

i agree that Ainge played it perfectly. I just don't know why anyone trades with him haha

 

[PresidioTrojan]

At least Sexton has a good attitude about the trade...
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Great to see. Although I'd have a good attitude about someone paying me $72m too.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The internet would tell you it was a meniscus tear if you asked it. So it is in either case way less serious, especially with how he approached treatment (do the repair surgery and sit rather than cut out the torn piece to get back sooner).

Of all the knee injuries its the least concerning. And he made the smart decision, but it did seemingly cost him in FA. Stoked to have him even though RJ is a better piece for fit and team building. Sexton will be fun as hell and is paid like a great sixth man.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, I think it was good to pass on it, but they were planning on getting Mitchell for the last 3 years. They teased the **** out of their fans.

Even though I agree it was a good pass for them, you can't hype that **** that much and not see it through because you were worried about giving up Quentin Grimes.

I just think the narrative is wonky. Its not like they saw the Cavs offer and had the chance to beat it and pass. They very likely would have tried to beat it. Ainge and JZ were done with their BS.

Rose also is given credit for being prudent and building long term around the kiddos... but he gave up a lotto pick for some ****** picks to offload salary of semi competent vets... he got a good vet on an okayish deal... like he is doing the very definition of treadmill ****. If you are looking for a star then make your lotto pick this year.

I think he literally got a little greedy... word is top 5 protections and Grimes were the holdups... not like he was prudent in saving draft capital... he would have had it encumbered but put semi-meaningless protections on it.

All he has done is take care of his own peeps... some of it worked out and they had one good season. Thibs and Rose are both gone in 2 years (not sure Donovan saves it for them). The narrative has gotten all kinds of weird though... like he folded when things got too rich... he got ****ing blindsided at the table.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just think the narrative is wonky. Its not like they saw the Cavs offer and had the chance to beat it and pass. They very likely would have tried to beat it. Ainge and JZ were done with their BS.

Rose also is given credit for being prudent and building long term around the kiddos... but he gave up a lotto pick for some ****** picks to offload salary of semi competent vets... he got a good vet on an okayish deal... like he is doing the very definition of treadmill ****. If you are looking for a star then make your lotto pick this year.

I think he literally got a little greedy... word is top 5 protections and Grimes were the holdups... not like he was prudent in saving draft capital... he would have had it encumbered but put semi-meaningless protections on it.

All he has done is take care of his own peeps... some of it worked out and they had one good season. Thibs and Rose are both gone in 2 years (not sure Donovan saves it for them). The narrative has gotten all kinds of weird though... like he folded when things got too rich... he got ****ing blindsided at the table.

His process definitely sucked.

Hindsight the Cavs seem so obvious. They are like TWolves East.

 

[Archie Moses]

So lame that people on here are so preoccupied by the New York Knicks. Getting excited because they don't get Don? Who cares?

These picks look worse than the Wolves picks. Cleveland is very good and very young.

We are like a video game franchise now. Loaded with youth and picks expecting stars to emerge. Very presumptuous. We should have built around Don for a while. Colin is fine and all, but he seems like a Don without star appeal and ruthless playoff dominance potential.

I don't hate this overall. I'm more just disengaged. This makes me lose interest. At least there's no more ruthless, unjustified Don hate.

Maybe I'll get banned for this like I got banned twice before for bogus garbage.

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Who cares that people care about it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

His process definitely sucked.

Hindsight the Cavs seem so obvious. They are like TWolves East.

I'm legit happy for both guys... I can root for both of them. Don to the Knicks would have made me root so hard against them. Think this works out for everyone... though I think Don bounces for Miami in a couple years. Ain't no way he goes to NY now after they had two chances to get him and whiffed.