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Would you do this trade...

I really don't think the Clips would do that deal unless Kawhi and PG were on the outs. The clips leadership issues are honestly more about Kawhi than PG. PG says too much but Kawhi says nothing at all. I am not sure why Leonard gets the benefit of the doubt when he manages his loads all year and then sucks in the playoffs too. He won a title in Toronto but that team wasn't really under his leadership. Homeboy forced his way out of San Antonio as well. That team needs Kyle Lowry or a guy similar to that.
 
Thing about PG is that its not flukey, dude just doesnt handle pressure well. Think he has the worst FG% on potential game winners in his career or something like that.
 
Hate has probably gone a little too far on PG. He's had a bad run but he's a top 10-15 player and is the most coveted commodity. A high level two way wing... it is so much easier to build a team around that type of player.

I understand people don't like him though... he has talked too much and been a little too open and had some big time public failings. Its kinda snowballed on the guy and made him an easy target. As far as his game goes though... you'd be hard pressed to find a better fit for what it is we need.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Thing about PG is that its not flukey, dude just doesnt handle pressure well. Think he has the worst FG% on potential game winners in his career or something like that.
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Its the gatorade commercial curse. He shot that ad hitting a game winner when he'd never really done it... it is one of the many times he's opened himself up to public ridicule unnecessarily.

Its part of the reason hes a definite number 2. DM would be the guy in the clutch for sure.
 
Maybe it was Joe who destroyed him mentally. Maybe he's the only guy that can fix him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Hate has probably gone a little too far on PG. He's had a bad run but he's a top 10-15 player and is the most coveted commodity. A high level two way wing... it is so much easier to build a team around that type of player.

I understand people don't like him though... he has talked too much and been a little too open and had some big time public failings. Its kinda snowballed on the guy and made him an easy target. As far as his game goes though... you'd be hard pressed to find a better fit for what it is we need.
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Is he good? Yes. Is he top 15, no way. Far gone are the days when he's battling with LeBron toe to toe as the #1 on a team. I wonder if he's even top 20....

LBJ
AD
Giannis
Kawhi
KD
Curry
Jimmy
Embiid
Rudy
Donovan
Harden
Klay
Siakim
Doncic
Murray
Middleton
Beal
Tatum
Booker
Chris Paul
Simmons

That's 21 names. Forget salaries, would you take PG over any guy on that list above? I wouldn't. And there are other guys who are would be great arguments - Jaylen Brown, Adebayo, Westbrook, and others.
 
LoPo said:
Is he good? Yes. Is he top 15, no way. Far gone are the days when he's battling with LeBron toe to toe as the #1 on a team. I wonder if he's even top 20....

LBJ
AD
Giannis
Kawhi
KD
Curry
Jimmy
Embiid
Rudy
Donovan
Harden
Klay
Siakim
Doncic
Murray
Middleton
Beal
Tatum
Booker
Chris Paul
Simmons

That's 21 names. Forget salaries, would you take PG over any guy on that list above? I wouldn't. And there are other guys who are would be great arguments - Jaylen Brown, Adebayo, Westbrook, and others.
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A few guys I'd probably take PG over. Donovan, Siakim, Murray, Simmons, CP3, I'd have to think really hard about. All the other guys are clear over PG imo.
 
Xthren said:
I have heard this brought up on a youtube channel and I was wondering what Jazzfanz thought about it?

Rudy Gobert, and filler for Paul George and Ivan Zubac?

- PG was awful in the playoffs. Recurring theme
_ zubac is a serviceable big

Then just trade Conley to the Knicks for Bobby Portis and filler
Re-sign Clarkson


Mitchell, Clarkson
George, O'neale
Bogdanovic, Inlges
Portis, Draft pick
Zubac, Favors, Morgan
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Portis and Zubiac would be the NBA worst Day 1 starting front court in NBA history.
 
LoPo said:
Is he good? Yes. Is he top 15, no way. Far gone are the days when he's battling with LeBron toe to toe as the #1 on a team. I wonder if he's even top 20....

LBJ
AD
Giannis
Kawhi
KD
Curry
Jimmy
Embiid
Rudy
Donovan
Harden
Klay
Siakim
Doncic
Murray
Middleton
Beal
Tatum
Booker
Chris Paul
Simmons

That's 21 names. Forget salaries, would you take PG over any guy on that list above? I wouldn't. And there are other guys who are would be great arguments - Jaylen Brown, Adebayo, Westbrook, and others.
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12-20 ish is his range. He's in the same tier as many of those guys and is a better player than several of those guys. One season and playoff run I would take him over Middleton, Booker, Beal, Simmons, Siakham... he's easier to build around because he does so many important things and many of those guys have things you have to work or plan around. If if was one playoff series there are absolutely times when you would take him over Rudy.

Zubac is important to the proposed trade as well. He's quite good and would replace a portion of what Rudy brings at a bargain price.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Portis and Zubiac would be the NBA worst Day 1 starting front court in NBA history.
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I am not sure why he threw in the Portis thing... even if we signed Portis after he is waived he would not start over Royce or Bojan. Not sure why we'd give up a good player for him in the first place.
 
He chokes in the playoffs, he's a douche, and after hearing about the Callie Rivers stuff, he's probably just a bad person. So I don't want him
 
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