Would you trade ...

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jesus you're pedantic. It is substantial, it isn't massive. It's also much closer to 2 than 1 (nearly twice the difference). It's not nothing, and that this is where you hang your hat is very revealing to the weakness of your argument, which consists of mostly excuses.

EDIT: it's 1.3, thought it was 1.7. Whoops. So Hood still has a worse PER on top of everything else.

It's exactly 1.06 according to ESPN.

 

[NUMBERICA]

So there are no other factors at play?

This being Hood's first year in a high usage role (higher than anything Fournier has sniffed) doesnt factor in?

Hood barely getting to play w/ Mitchell doesnt factor in (less than half his total minutes)? And yes, they havent played particularly well together, but I think that's largely due to how little they play together.

You can't just look at stats and make sweeping conclusions if we are talking about intellectual honesty.

We can start to if the numbers uniformly paint the same picture.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It's exactly 1.06 according to ESPN.

Ok

 

[NUMBERICA]

Given all factors (mostly that I'm up arguing with Cy when I should've been asleep hours ago), this is one of the dumbest things I've ever participated in on this site, and that says something.

Okay cool bye.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We can start to if the numbers uniformly paint the same picture.

They do. Hood plays a higher usage role on a more offensively challenged team, thus his numbers look worse from an efficiency perspective.

He is also removed from the team's best offensive player due to those offensive challenges because they play a PG who can't score and feel the need to stick w/ him because they spent a first round pick to get him.

Not to mention, Utah's best player and leader from last year has been hurt most of the year.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Maybe I’m greedy, but I’d try to trade Rubio, Jerebko and picks for Fournier. . . and then I still keep Hood as my 6th man. Can’t have too many good shooters.

 

[LoPo]

Cy - how can you bash my trade idea when Stan Van Gundy said the following:

- we need a PG
- most other teams won't trade their PG
- our financial situation is fine
- we are in win now mode

Rubio for Kennard, Marjanovic and a non-guaranteed is exactly the type trade we should pursue. Here is why for Detroit:

- gets them a PG SVG needs
- Rubio helps them win more than any of those 3
- the trade only adds $5 million to next year even though SVG said the financial situation is fine
- Rubio isn't perfect, but he is more ready now than Kennard

Sometimes, you just want to argue without reading the signs and interviews. I bet we won't trade Rubio more than Detroit doesn't want this trade.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8glfv2a

If this trade is proposed, are the Jazz giving up a 2nd round to get Bazemore or are the Hawks giving up a 2nd round pick to get off Bazemore's final year? I'm so confused as to what his value is.

I think we could get a second in that deal. They have a ton of picks this year. 3 in the first and multiple seconds. The cap space in three years would be valuable. Room next year can’t hurt.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Cy - how can you bash my trade idea when Stan Van Gundy said the following:

- we need a PG
- most other teams won't trade their PG
- our financial situation is fine
- we are in win now mode

Rubio for Kennard, Marjanovic and a non-guaranteed is exactly the type trade we should pursue. Here is why for Detroit:

- gets them a PG SVG needs
- Rubio helps them win more than any of those 3
- the trade only adds $5 million to next year even though SVG said the financial situation is fine
- Rubio isn't perfect, but he is more ready now than Kennard

Sometimes, you just want to argue without reading the signs and interviews. I bet we won't trade Rubio more than Detroit doesn't want this trade.

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It is terrible. They need to lose salary to be able to retain Avery Bradley. A 15M a year backup pg is not ideal... and they lose a really solid young player that has potential to much more.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cy - how can you bash my trade idea when Stan Van Gundy said the following:

- we need a PG
- most other teams won't trade their PG
- our financial situation is fine
- we are in win now mode

Rubio for Kennard, Marjanovic and a non-guaranteed is exactly the type trade we should pursue. Here is why for Detroit:

- gets them a PG SVG needs
- Rubio helps them win more than any of those 3
- the trade only adds $5 million to next year even though SVG said the financial situation is fine
- Rubio isn't perfect, but he is more ready now than Kennard

Sometimes, you just want to argue without reading the signs and interviews. I bet we won't trade Rubio more than Detroit doesn't want this trade.

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Do you even bother using your brain?

I also complimented your other trade idea but you decide to focus on your brain-dead proposal, so idk, it looks like you like to argue also.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It is terrible. They need to lose salary to be able to retain Avery Bradley. A 15M a year backup pg is not ideal... and they lose a really solid young player that has potential to much more.

No bro. SVG said they need a PG so that means they will take any PG you offer them no matter how ****** he is playing or how ****** the deal is.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Maybe I’m greedy, but I’d try to trade Rubio, Jerebko and picks for Fournier. . . and then I still keep Hood as my 6th man. Can’t have too many good shooters.

Uhh, why would the Magic do that?

Jazz woul have to give up their first rounder, and that'd be a bad deal IMO.