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They only teams I could see wanting Rubio would be NY and Phoenix.

I can’t see anyone really wanting him as a backup.
 
With Rubio we would be lucky to get off of his money... an expiring for Rubio is likely as good as it gets.
 
I honestly think we need to just look 3-4 years down the road as our “window” and most decisions need to be made inside that box.

Donovan will be our best player and Rudy is a tremendous building block. With the way the game is going I don’t see rudy giving us the Hayward treatment... in part because the big man market is much more limited.

We seem to make some decisions purely based on short term win now and want to hold into this mid tier build for the future but still make the playoffs mode.

This season is a success because of DM but I’d really like to make it a homerun by tanking for another blue chip asset and get some “lotto scratchers” that could turn into cheap contributors like Hood or building blocks like Rudy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I’m generally a fan of hypothetical trades but some of these are... I’ll say... overly optimistic
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I understand, but we have to start somewhere.

Washington is in a massive bind. They are projected to be in the luxury this year ($5.8 over) and next year (an estimated $10+ over if you include the necessary minimum contracts). Because of their situation, Mahinmi is considered one of the worst contacts in the NBA. He is set to make around $16 million this year and the next two years. Many think his contract is untradeable. Many have speculated that the Lakers might trade Deng because he also has a bad contract. However, compared to Washington, Deng's contract is not as toxic. Deng might keep LA from getting two full max contract players, but his contract is not leading to the massive luxury and repeater luxury tax area like Mahinmi is doing to Washington.

So if we can find a way to take Mahinmi off Washington's hands AND help them avoid the luxury tax this year, we can ask for a whole lot in return. I think Rubio is a realistic trade piece for them, but they might prefer an expiring like JoeJ or Favors. If we give them an expiring, they more than likely avoid the luxury this year and next then can keep Oubre when he needs to be re-signed in 2019. So the question is, would they trade Oubre? Not sure. Do we want Oubre? Not sure. But if we gave them an expiring for Mahinmi while getting them out of the luxury, that should be worth numerous unprotected first round picks.
 
LoPo said:
I understand, but we have to start somewhere.

Washington is in a massive bind. They are projected to be in the luxury this year ($5.8 over) and next year (an estimated $10+ over if you include the necessary minimum contracts). Because of their situation, Mahinmi is considered one of the worst contacts in the NBA. He is set to make around $16 million this year and the next two years. Many think his contract is untradeable. Many have speculated that the Lakers might trade Deng because he also has a bad contract. However, compared to Washington, Deng's contract is not as toxic. Deng might keep LA from getting two full max contract players, but his contract is not leading to the massive luxury and repeater luxury tax area like Mahinmi is doing to Washington.

So if we can find a way to take Mahinmi off Washington's hands AND help them avoid the luxury tax this year, we can ask for a whole lot in return. I think Rubio is a realistic trade piece for them, but they might prefer an expiring like JoeJ or Favors. If we give them an expiring, they more than likely avoid the luxury this year and next then can keep Oubre when he needs to be re-signed in 2019. So the question is, would they trade Oubre? Not sure. Do we want Oubre? Not sure. But if we gave them an expiring for Mahinmi while getting them out of the luxury, that should be worth numerous unprotected first round picks.
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Yes, please explain the idea to the guy you got it from.
 
LoPo said:
Lol. Okay.... Yeah, because I don't look at every trade angle to see what can benefit our Jazz. Are you serious?
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HH is certainly the first to propose Favors for Mahinmi on this site and I know you've read them. So yeah, it's funny to me that you're explaining the trade to him.
 
Back to the actual topic regarding Washington. Another idea:

Favors, Udoh and the newly signed McCree
for
Oubre, Mahinmi, Frazier (expiring), Mac (nonguaranteed), and an unprotected 1st or two.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yat3ujhr

Washington gets the Mahinmi dump, the luxury tax savings, and actually two guys to help the playoff push this year.

We get the promising young Oubre and a first rounder or two.
NUMBERICA said:
HH is certainly the first to propose Favors for Mahinmi on this site and I know you've read them. So yeah, it's funny to me that you're explaining the trade to him.
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#1 - I don't throw ideas out there for one person.
#2 - Since the ideas are for anyone to chew on, I'm not explaining it to any one person unless they ask.
#3 - I didn't know we had trade idea rights.
#4 - It's either a trade idea or a concept about trading with a potential trade partner.
#5 - Who gives two ***** about all that. Either say you like the trade, don't like it, or question how realistic it could be.
 
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