Would you vote for an atheist for President of the US

[Gyp Rosetti]

Yes. Anyone who says otherwise is a moran.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

Too many of these:

as opposed pseudo-intellectual self-righteous doucher _________ (other belief)?

Who fits this claim? An open atheist who ran and lost because he was a douche?

 

[sirkickyass]

as opposed pseudo-intellectual self-righteous doucher _________ (other belief)?

Who fits this claim? An open atheist who ran and lost because he was a douche?

This kid is somewhere between 14 and 16. He doesnt' actually mean anything but this is what impresses his idiot friends. Just ignore him.

 

[sirkickyass]

Platforms are worthless professions crafted by committees and ignored by elected officials. It's all about the man. . . . or in some cases The Man. . . . or maybe even THE MAN.

No women huh?

But I think we have seen one case presently where even an atheist/progressive can do that, despite some public professions of being something else.

I'm curious as to why you seem to be equating athiesm with progressivism.

I'm intensely critical of Jon Huntsman despite his Mormon label because he just has too much pragmatism

That's the last thing I want in my leaders. I strongly prefer to have them howling at the moon.

I might cringe with embarrassment at most of the religious zealot conservatives, even Constitution Party and Libertarian Party, who are also incompetent ideologues unable to trace the fine lines of freedom woven into the fabric of our intentionally limited Constitutional government. Which was the only concept that could be successfully negotiated between thirteen or so wrangling freshly independent former "colonies" of the Imperial Crown. It was the fears of being freshly subjected and economically dominated by British cartelists that raised the horrors that only could induce them to have any central government at all.

I have news for you. Sit down because this may shock you. This is not the late 1700s. Things are different now.

Until I see someone intent up taking our federal government back into the original concept, including deconstructing the cartel-protecting international trade structures, I'm just gonna vote for third party dark horses, so I can look my kids in the eye and tell them I didn't vote for this government.

Surely none of your children will find this embarrassing.

An atheist who is just as disbelieving in Government would get my vote.

I find the concept of only hiring people for government jobs who don't believe in government curious.

One of the necessary corollaries to believing the Constitution will be preserved as a the model for Jesus' rule, which if it became the case would mean Jesus probably couldn't vote or hold office. . . . I'm getting a bit dizzy trying to integrate all these old Mormon notions into a coherent pattern.

Notions of the Constitution being divinely inspired or paving the way for Jesus is non-canonical lay doctrine. This is one of the problems with having a non-professional clergy.

From the ratification of the Constitution, some states still claimed the right as states to have "state religions" and viewed the Constitutional restriction against an "establishment of religion" just meant the Federal goverment was restricted, not the states. There were official "State Religions" clear into the mid nineteen hundred era, and even Brigham Young started out thinking his "State of Deseret" would have Mormonism as a state religion.

That wasn't what "some states" thought. That was the law prior to the enactment of the 14th Amendment. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barron_v._Baltimore

What you're talking about is called the doctrine of incorporation which was largely rolled out in the 1890s with lots of specific protections regarding religion officially codified by the 1940s (although those were finer points, in practice the cases in the 1940s were about things like "do religious school children have the right to tax reimbursement for public transportation" not "can a state have an official religion.")

People came here just because of that, just like earlier migrations to our "colonies" under different religious colors were motivated by the need for a refuge where various religious folks could come.

People came to the US for a lot of reasons. This particular storyline is overblown. Many were frankly hoping to get rich.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I would.

the red flags to me aren't race or religion. they're what they stand for. Vote the issues and integrity, not the party, sex, religion, or race.

 

[JohnStockalypse]

This kid is somewhere between 14 and 16. He doesnt' actually mean anything but this is what impresses his idiot friends. Just ignore him.

This kid is somewhere between 18 and 35. He doesnt' actually mean anything but this is what impresses the (removed) he is forced to settle for. Just ignore him.

 

[The-Joker]

This kid is somewhere between 18 and 35. He doesnt' actually mean anything but this is what impresses the (something or other) he is forced to settle for. Just ignore him.

If you knew Kicky's tax-bracket, you'd realize he ain't the one settling...

 

[sirkickyass]

O/T: For those who believe that Millsapa and babe are the same person (I'm mostly looking at Trout) here's all you need to know: Babe actually pos repped me for my response to him. Millsapa would have gone off the handle.

We may disagree with babe but he does deserve some credit for being honestly open to opposing viewpoints and sharp criticism. You can draw your own conclusions about his partner in crime.

Johnstockalypse responded to the "criticism" that he's between 14-16 by, predictably, acting his age. Complete with font size and color changes for emphasis.

 

[Nate505]

This kid is somewhere between 18 and 35. He doesnt' actually mean anything but this is what impresses the (some string of words) he is forced to settle for. Just ignore him.

You're not doing much to help your case about your age here.

 

[JohnStockalypse]

Oh, so you didn't insult me first???!!!!??! When YOU apologize, I will. I don't know WHY you continue to try to start things with me!!!???!?!?!??!!

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

^

JSL, is that you whining in your avatar?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Check that. Pouting.