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Wow. Cougar fans aren't going to like this......

One thing is for sure, hype for this year's game and the game itself should be insane . . . clearly.
 
moevillini said:
just for the sake of comparison...




so they have a separate tuition tier based on religious affiliation? well geez yeah, that would seem to be a big disqualifier.
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Yes, but also note members of the LDS faith generally believe in the principle of tithing - i.e. donating 10% of their income to the Church each year. So LDS students - and their parents - will have paid the difference between LDS/non-LDS tuition many times over in their lifetime.
 
GlassEater said:
Yes, but also note members of the LDS faith generally believe in the principle of tithing - i.e. donating 10% of their income to the Church each year. So LDS students - and their parents - will have paid the difference between LDS/non-LDS tuition many times over in their lifetime.
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This is true. But I can still understand why it wouldn't jive with the Pac-10 constitution and why the Pac-10 might be opening itself up for a lawsuit if it took on BYU.
 
CONAN said:
This is true. But I can still understand why it wouldn't jive with the Pac-10 constitution and why the Pac-10 might be opening itself up for a lawsuit if it took on BYU.
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I don't see how it differs greatly from a school charging less for in state students vs out of state or even out of country students. It's a criteria that the school has set up for students that want to attend and they don't hide the fact. Obviously there are those that are willing to pay the extra money to attend the school of their choice.
 
CONAN said:
But I can still understand why it wouldn't jive with the Pac-10 constitution and why the Pac-10 might be opening itself up for a lawsuit if it took on BYU.
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Does the Pac-10 constitution contain a clause that expressly forbids religiously affiliated universities from joining?
I'm not familiar with Pac-10 constitution but I'm sure there's something in there about discriminatory tuition with regards to religion.
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Oh... OK, thanks for pointing out that statement was nothing more than a baseless allegation of fact.
I'm fine with BYU not being in the Pac-10. Not a big deal really. But call it whatever you want whether that be a business decision or bigotry or whatever but the bottom line is academics has very little to do with BYU not being there. We all know it's about religion whether you haters want to admit to it or not. In fact, if BYU wasn't a Mormon school I doubt a lot of you haters would even exist.
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Just go ahead and keep telling yourself this was a purely religious based decision... it had nothing to do with Utah's recent superior athletic program or research academia... it's all religious bigotry
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You know, if you just replaced the word "religion" with "race" and the word "Mormon" with "Pro African-American" you could be

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just wondering...

IF BYU were invited to join the Pac 10 Conference, would they accept?


as much as some of you BYU fans might think it'd be the best course of action, I wouldn't necessarily assume that the university and church hierarchy would feel it would be beneficial for the school to join the conference.


those of you who claim it's due to "religious discrimination" on the part of the Pac 10 that is keeping BYU out of the conference, how about BYU's own practices of religious discriination? I think that's the deal killer right there - - after all these years, I've finally looked up the BYU Honor Code, here it is:

https://saas.byu.edu/catalog/2009-2010ucat/GeneralInfo/HonorCode.php#HCOfficeInvovement

...Members of the faculty, administration, staff, and student body at BYU, BYU—Hawaii, BYU—Idaho, and LDSBC are selected and retained from among those who voluntarily live the principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Observance of such is a specific condition of employment and admission. Those individuals who are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are also expected to maintain the same standards of conduct, except church attendance...
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Marcus said:
I don't see how it differs greatly from a school charging less for in state students vs out of state or even out of country students. It's a criteria that the school has set up for students that want to attend and they don't hide the fact. Obviously there are those that are willing to pay the extra money to attend the school of their choice.
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It's based on religion. Again, not familiar with Pac-10 constitution but I'm sure there's something in there about religious discrimination.
 
moevillini said:
just wondering...

IF BYU were invited to join the Pac 10 Conference, would they accept?
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Who knows? Not a big deal either way. But then again, BYU isn't as crazy for the limelight as Utah is. Little Bro is feeling it for the first time ever. Get some!

those of you who claim it's due to "religious discrimination" on the part of the Pac 10 that is keeping BYU out of the conference, how about BYU's own practices of religious discriination?
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Exactly, and that's why I haven't cried foul here based on religious discrimination. It's just smart business by the Pac-10.
 
Bronco70 said:
Looks to me like being Mormon isn't necessary, just abiding by their (BYU's) code of conduct. You're stretching here, Moe.
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Don't even hafta have no religious faith, best I can tell, eh, Bronc? But, then again, looky here: they want them "who voluntarily live the principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ." If ya wasn't some kinda biblical scholar, or sumthin, how would ya even know what that means, exactly?

My own damn self, I aint never known nobuddy, christian or not, who "turns the other cheek" when sumbuddy tries to bitch-slap em, so, like, who would even be eligible at all, I wonder?
 
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