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WOW hornets......3yrs 27million Lance Stephenson! wowowoowowoww so mad right now.

And he figured that Rush will be rehabbing most of the time hence he won't be 100% part of the team. Also recent good behaviour has to be taken into account as well.

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Fans I been hearing since 1982 just like you continually say the Jazz won't bring in people with character issues, I am showing the Jazz continually bring in people with character issues.

Josh Howard, Jamaal Tinsley and Richard Jefferson would all like to thank Utah for giving them 2nd (and sometimes their 3rd or 4th chances) to show they were still NBA-quality players and had overcome questions others had about character issues.
 
The key is not to have a whole team of knuckleheads. Good orgs can usually absorb a couple. We've had Kirk Snyder, Robert Whaley, and others that were worse people with far less upside. You could get rid of Lance in a New York minute at 27 mill over 3.

Not when you are trying to build a sustainable spurs like culture you do not take that type if risk. Raja, mark Jackson, Dsteve, booz, all harmed culture with selfishness. Jazz want Hayward Exum Burke to define a pass first team first culture and goof balls like lance would place this at risk
 
Not when you are trying to build a sustainable spurs like culture you do not take that type if risk. Raja, mark Jackson, Dsteve, booz, all harmed culture with selfishness. Jazz want Hayward Exum Burke to define a pass first team first culture and goof balls like lance would place this at risk

This.


Yeah you can get rid of Lance in a new york minit but not before he turns Hayward, Exum and Gobert into gangsta's.
 
And you know this how???? Were you in the room????



We're all just speculating, but in my opinion Favors said to himself "I love this city, i love this team, I don't want to **** it for all it's worth, $12m (each year) is plenty for me and I'm happy to sign".

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Fan is fanatical.
 
Didn't Karl Malone have a lot of character issues? More then Mr. Lance?

Remember that playoff series when Karl Malone was fist fighting with his team mates in the locker room? Yeah, I don't either. Other than Delonte West can you think of a more locker room poisoning thing to do than that? There are character issues that happen in a player's personal life and there are character issues that show up in the locker room. The first you may take a chance on. The second you just don't touch. . .
 
Remember that playoff series when Karl Malone was fist fighting with his team mates in the locker room? Yeah, I don't either. Other than Delonte West can you think of a more locker room poisoning thing to do than that? There are character issues that happen in a player's personal life and there are character issues that show up in the locker room. The first you may take a chance on. The second you just don't touch. . .

How about character issues that show up on the court? (ala the ear blowing?)
 
We can argue til' we turn blue in the face, but I'd love Lance Stephenson on the Jazz. He's bat**** crazy, but he's warrior on the court who defends, shoots, scores, passes and rebounds. 3 years $27 M compared to 4 years $63 M? No brainer. But yeah, Gail Miller would fire everybody in 5 minutes if they were to ink such a deal.

Booker at $5 M per over Ed Davis at $1 M per - I can't figure that one out - does Davis have darker skin color than Booker? perhaps that's it.
 
Aren't the real and relevant points as follows:

1. Lance and GH were both FA's;
2. Both were fishing for the most money they could get;
3. Another team thought GH was worth the max and offered it to him.
4. The best Lance could get was 9 mill a year.
5. The market has rated Lance a 9 mill a year player and GH a 15 mill a year player;
6. I think we all agree that there is not a 6 mill a year difference in the quality of player between Lance and GH.
7. However, there are obviously other factors at play in the market which have resulted in the above difference. I think it is safe to assume, that the market did not want to touch Lance, not only the jazz, but it must have been most of the nba. Accordingly, most of the nba has rated Lance as a huge risk/cancer and therefore were not willing to pay the money Lance would have received had he not had such characteristics.
8. The conclusion has to be that there was low demand for Lance, and therefore he only got 9 mill a year.
9. For whatever reason, the experts in the NBA had demand for GH and therefore the market put him at 15 mill a year.
10. Lastly, I don't think you can compare these two deals because, based on the above, it is clear that the majority of the nba put huge risk on Lance's character.
Good post. And it definately says alot about lances value.

As for hayward..... there is a chance that only 2 teams value him at that 15 million number. Could be that most of the league values him alot closer to lances number
 
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