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[Hax0rs]

1.3%. Yup, that is the going rate of people of African Americans in the entire state of Utah. 1.3% That is astonishing. While African-Americans make up 15% of the US population, it is only 1% in Utah. Is it surprising that these racial events keep occurring in a Utah arena?

Does it also astonish you that Utah has one of the lowest murder rates in the United States but one of the highest number of guns per owner?

 

[framer]

Uhh, the better question is how many Jews are there in Utah?
Yeah, zero Jews were beat up in Utah, just like statistics will also show there were zero Martians beat up in Utah. Figure out why.

There will be a lot more after you morons burn them out of NYC. . .

 

[MeloTheJazzKiller]

Does it also astonish you that Utah has one of the lowest murder rates in the United States but one of the highest number of guns per owner?

Not really. The rubes out there simply don't know how to use them.

Just curious, if the murder rate is among the lowest, why, pray tell, would there be such a need for "the highest number of guns per owner"? Is it some weird sexual fetish to own numerous guns? Are grizzly bears killing you Utes by the thousands? Do you Utes feel the big bad government is going to enslave us all? Hmmm, murder rate the lowest, but gun ownership through the roof. Maybe instead of purchasing a multitude of guns, you Utes should spend your money on another hobby. How about education, books, proper attire (baseball caps, blue jeans, and a t-shirt are so nowhere).

 

[Hax0rs]

Not really. The rubes out there simply don't know how to use them.

Just curious, if the murder rate is among the lowest, why, pray tell, would there be such a need for "the highest number of guns per owner"? Is it some weird sexual fetish to own numerous guns? Are grizzly bears killing you Utes by the thousands? Do you Utes feel the big bad government is going to enslave us all? Hmmm, murder rate the lowest, but gun ownership through the roof. Maybe instead of purchasing a multitude of guns, you Utes should spend your money on another hobby. How about education, books, proper attire (baseball caps, blue jeans, and a t-shirt are so nowhere).

It's really quite simple. It's none of your business and private citizens constitutional right to own as many guns as they'd like, think of it as a hobby.

Stay safe out there in those cozy streets of NYC

 

[MeloTheJazzKiller]

It's really quite simple. It's none of your business and private citizens constitutional right to own as many guns as they'd like, think of it as a hobby.

It is all of our business when the gun owner goes into a place of business and blasts away at innocent people. And I apologize that I have to go back a really long way to come up with an example of when that happened. Hmmm, I think it was two days ago in a rail yard in California.

 

[Hax0rs]

It is all of our business when the gun owner goes into a place of business and blasts away at innocent people. And I apologize that I have to go back a really long way to come up with an example of when that happened. Hmmm, I think it was two days ago in a rail yard in California.

What are you even talking about? Here you are blabbering off at the mouth about liberal infested California, what does that have to do with Utah?

I was talking about one of the SAFEST places to live in America. No white liberal/BLM people burning **** down here. Kids will not be taught marxist theories in our schools. The friendliest most helpful neighbors/community you will find in any state in the Union.

Enjoy your **** hole

 

[idiot]

OK, I would probably rephrase that to "most" of those those DEMANDING more "understanding." I can actually full get behind promoting understanding. Understanding comes through teaching and friendship, not at the point of a metaphorical gun.

I mean, I talked to a person that REMEMBERED the Tulsa race riots as a little girl living in the community. I've lived in towns where the segregated areas of town pretty much remain that way. I've knocked doors in cities where we didn't encounter a single black person, when the surrounding areas were probably at 25-30% black. That didn't happen organically. I lived in Russia, where in the late 90's, racism against black people was pretty out in the open and certain degrees were not available to members of certain races (you could be a nurse but not a doctor.) Utah's race "problem" isn't in the same stratosphere with stuff like that, and as a Utahn, it is hard to comprehend that stuff without seeing it personally.

The trick is to find the way to "see it personally" when that history isn't THEIR history. Everybody has their top concerns and are unlikely to kindly let someone else dictate what the order of those concerns should be, especially for an issue which barely, if ever, touches their lives.

I'm with you on most things here. I'm not here to harp on Utah while by implication exonerating other places that have different (whether better or worse) racism problems. I'm simply here to recognize that Utah has a problem and that I'm (to the extent that I'm part of Utah) acknowledge that it's my problem too. If we can diagnose the aspects that make Utah's issues unique, we'll be better off, I think.

But yes, getting people to see things "personally" is a huge issue. To a certain extent it's not a challenge that is likely to ever be fully successful. But this is not that we can't ever improve things. Education, I believe, is a key tool here, imperfect as it is. It's one of the only ways we learn that things that seemingly don't affect us are actually more connected to us than we realize.

 

[oneye]

Not really. The rubes out there simply don't know how to use them.

Just curious, if the murder rate is among the lowest, why, pray tell, would there be such a need for "the highest number of guns per owner"? Is it some weird sexual fetish to own numerous guns? Are grizzly bears killing you Utes by the thousands? Do you Utes feel the big bad government is going to enslave us all? Hmmm, murder rate the lowest, but gun ownership through the roof. Maybe instead of purchasing a multitude of guns, you Utes should spend your money on another hobby. How about education, books, proper attire (baseball caps, blue jeans, and a t-shirt are so nowhere).

I would pretty much promise you the average Utahn knows how to use a gun far more than the average New Yorker. I am for tighter gun regulations for sure, but not killing someone does not imply someone doesn’t know how to use a gun. I own several firearms, for hunting purposes. I’m for tighter gun protections, but this isn’t a gun thread and it’s a complicated conversation, so back to the issue at hand.

 

[MeloTheJazzKiller]

What are you even talking about? Here you are blabbering off at the mouth about liberal infested California, what does that have to do with Utah?

I was talking about one of the SAFEST places to live in America. No white liberal/BLM people burning **** down here. Kids will not be taught marxist theories in our schools. The friendliest most helpful neighbors/community you will find in any state in the Union.

Enjoy your **** hole

Hmmm, typical. When talking about gun violence, gun holders immediately deflect. You don't want to talk about the senseless savage act by a gun owner in rail yard two days ago. You must immediately deflect to your talking points (liberal, California, BLM...).

Enjoy your guns. But can you do me a favor? Five minutes before you die, can you allow me to call you? I will simply ask how much money you spent on your various guns and then ask you in your entire life did you ever once use those guns to fend off marauding home invaders or did you ever once use those guns to defend your sovereignty against the tyrannical United States government and military? Get the point? What a waste of money you spent on your gun collection. Could have done something for your loved ones with that money instead of buying weapons that you use to fulfill your insane fantasies that you are Charles Bronson in DEATH WISH or a patriot defeating the tyranny of the Unites States government. Yes, your money spent on your guns that you never once used to save your life or your freedom was well spent, wasn't it?

Oh, and if you say you use your guns for target practice or hunting...
A) use a pellet gun
B) use a bow and arrow.
Both cheaper than firearms.

 

[LogGrad98]

We don't do racial intolerance. Utah Jazz fans have cornered that market.

You have already shown you support this kind of behavior, defending spitting on another human being and making comments that they deserved it, all in the interest of keeping your shtick going, so this is pretty meaningless.

 

[LogGrad98]

This thread has jumped the shark. Time to close it or move it to GD.

 

[Hax0rs]

Hmmm, typical. When talking about gun violence, gun holders immediately deflect. You don't want to talk about the senseless savage act by a gun owner in rail yard two days ago. You must immediately deflect to your talking points (liberal, California, BLM...).

Enjoy your guns. But can you do me a favor? Five minutes before you die, can you allow me to call you? I will simply ask how much money you spent on your various guns and then ask you in your entire life did you ever once use those guns to fend off marauding home invaders or did you ever once use those guns to defend your sovereignty against the tyrannical United States government and military? Get the point? What a waste of money you spent on your gun collection. Could have done something for your loved ones with that money instead of buying weapons that you use to fulfill your insane fantasies that you are Charles Bronson in DEATH WISH or a patriot defeating the tyranny of the Unites States government. Yes, your money spent on your guns that you never once used to save your life or your freedom was well spent, wasn't it?

Oh, and if you say you use your guns for target practice or hunting...
A) use a pellet gun
B) use a bow and arrow.
Both cheaper than firearms.

You the whole damn goof troop.

This thread was about Utah and its racist whites, I simply dropped some facts about Utah. You now try and turn this into a gun violence thread.

What I did here was run about 20 miles in your empty space for a head, lifted my sack and slapped it on your forehead as I ran it down across your eyelids and nose. The sweat dripped across your lips as I slapped the shaft hard as hell across your cheek. You now have a permanent JazzFanz mushroom tat to display, be proud.