Yup, unions are awesome!

[babe]

I've found twinkies in the cupboard that had been there a year, and snarfed them up without noticing any change in smell, flavor, or digestibility. . . . and I used to frequent a Hostess bakery about a block away where they sold stuff pretty cheap with the magic marker streak. . . . at half price or better. . . . . presumably because of the claimed 25 day shelf life. . . . and I've serviced refreshment stands which offer them for sale. . . . and while they do sell, sometimes they are there a while, and nobody ever complained about them being outta date.

Clearly, the urban legends seem believable because of a whole lot of people with observations like this. . . . lol.

how about marshmallows. . . and mayonaise. . . . related egg products with long shelf lives. . . . and it's the egg ingredient that has the shortest shelf life in the twinkie. The stamped expiration date probably reflects not the actual shelf life but the market research and sales "shelf life". . . . no reason to extend the date on impulse purchase/highly consumable comfort foods. . . . unless you really just can't sell them that fast. . . . which i don't think is the dominant issue.

clearly, I favor highly distributed production models anyway, where the stuff we buy is more locally-produced than shipped back and forth across the oceans. Seems like if we cared about energy waste we could put a little more value on goods being produced near their retail outlets. . . .

 

[RJF]

Obviously they decided it wasn't worth it. It isn't like they're making out at your expense, they're all losing their jobs, too. I'm sorry this is happening to you, but they didn't owe you anything.

I didn't once say they owed me a ****ing thing. Like I said, there's plenty of blame for both sides but you can't replace Union workers, as Salty suggested, without closing down the company for a minimum of 30 days. So, the strike was the ultimate doom. AND, yes, managment was too eager for it to happen.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I didn't once say they owed me a ****ing thing. Like I said, there's plenty of blame for both sides but you can't replace Union workers, as Salty suggested, without closing down the company for a minimum of 30 days. So, the strike was the ultimate doom. AND, yes, managment was too eager for it to happen.

That's BS. Union workers can absolutely be replaced if they go on strike. I don't know who is telling you the incorrect info, but you need to check a different source.

Here is some reading to get you started:
https://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/08/26_newsroom_day7/

Some more info on permanently replacing striking workers:
https://leraweb.org/publications/pe...-striker-replacement-doctrine-seen-union-atto

Here is a company that provides replacement workers to companies during strikes and lockouts:
https://www.pmgroup1.com/planning-services/labor-dispute-planning

Striking workers absolutely can be replaced, either permanently or temporarily. It's happened plenty of times in the past, even with highly skilled workers. Whoever is telling you that it can't be done is likely a huge part of the problem at hostess. Especially if these guys are as unskilled as you claim.

 

[moevillini]

so what will YOU be doing on July 15?


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hostess-twinkies-return-shelves-july-15-163913503.html

NEW YORK (AP) — Hostess is betting on a sweet comeback for Twinkies when they return to shelves next month.

The company that went bankrupt after an acrimonious fight with its unionized workers last year is back up and running under new owners and a leaner structure. It says it plans to have Twinkies and other snack cakes back on shelves starting July 15.

Based on the outpouring of nostalgia sparked by its demise, Hostess is expecting a blockbuster return next month for Twinkies and other sugary treats, such as CupCakes and Donettes. The company says the cakes will taste the same but that the boxes will now bear the tag line "The Sweetest Comeback In The History Of Ever."

"A lot of impostor products have come to the market while Hostess has been off the shelves," says Daren Metropoulos, a principal of the investment firm Metropoulos & Co., which teamed up with Apollo Global Management to buy a variety of Hostess snacks.

posted in "Golden Twinkie" in honor of this upcoming special event

 

[TroutBum]

This pleases me. I talked to Mrs. Trout about it yesterday as we were slaughtering Catfish over at Utah Lake, and watching my little girl grimace when she bit into one of the "other" companies that tried to take over and produce "cupcakes". I haven't had a convenience store style "baked good" since Hostess went bye-bye, and the look on my daughters face is exactly why. Why bother? I know it won't be as good, and in fact, will probably be gross. I'm not a huge fan of Hostess, but a pack of Twinkies in the middle of a 14 hour fishing day o'death, or a 2-pack of Cupcakes with a tall glass of ice cold milk is tough to beat.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I think it's funny how Hostess and their... What?.... 12 CEOs in 10 years, run the company into the ground, rip off millions in compensation and bonuses, and then blame the union for everything.

Hopefully this new Hostess has competent leadership who desires long-term stability and profit rather than using the company for a quickie...

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Fixed.

This is just pathetically sad. Scat's entire world-view is informed by a simplistic, highly reductionist knee jerk political ideology that explains precious little with any degree of accuracy of the complex, dynamic world around us.

Might I suggest that you try thinking outside your teeny tiny little box now and then? It really can be an exhilarating experience.

 

[Scat]

This is just pathetically sad. Scat's entire world-view is informed by a simplistic, highly reductionist knee jerk political ideology that explains precious little with any degree of accuracy of the complex, dynamic world around us.

Might I suggest that you try thinking outside your teeny tiny little box now and then? It really can be an exhilarating experience.

Not everyone has as big a box as you.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Not everyone has as big a box as you.

So I've been told...

 

[Scat]

So I've been told...

You're confusing box with package.

 

[green]

So, this is all the owner's fault for making unhealthy food products...and the union takes no blame for thinking they could forever make money off a product no one wants anymore...

I think both sides have their issues.

 

[Deleted member 365]

So, this is all the owner's fault for making unhealthy food products...and the union takes no blame for thinking they could forever make money off a product no one wants anymore...

I think both sides have their issues.

Or the parts with CEOs telling shareholders about the success of the company while at the same time selling their stock in the company... Or the parts about 6 different CEOs in a short period of time merely using the company as a prostitute for a quickie and leaving the company in worse shape... Or the parts about management asking workers to take cuts while giving themselves bonuses.

It's real important that we understand economics. In all reality, many CEOs aren't looking for long term stability and success. They merely want to pump up the stock price, impress shareholders, slice and dice labor to make the company easier to sell, and get the **** out before the bubble which they create collapses. They use the company to rip off boatloads of money and stock options while destroying long term prospects. Thus leaving the company off in worse and worse shape. This is proving to have detrimental effects on our economy. Somewhere... Somehow... We need to get back to he focus bein long term stability and wealth creation.