Yeah, the idea of a kid being stoned walking in the rain minding his own business is just way too out there to believe.
What was Dudley DoRight protecting his neighborhood from? Did he catch Martin breaking into a house?
Zimmerman/Martin Case
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Yeah, the idea of a kid being stoned walking in the rain minding his own business is just way too out there to believe.
What was Dudley DoRight protecting his neighborhood from? Did he catch Martin breaking into a house?
Nope. And unfortunately that's the unknown crux of the issue, who attacked who first. Zimmerman being alive tends to have the upper hand in what will be decided as the truth.
Which is why I suggested the restrictions I did.
As a gun loving libertarian, I assure you, innocent people being harmed is 100% unacceptable to me. They are not casualties of war. They are innocent victims. If every person has the right to their own life they certainly have the right not to be harmed by a vigilante law man. A person defending their own life, or the life of someone else, is one thing. I support the right to use whatever means necessary to defend the life of innocents. What I don't defend is the notion of picking someone out, deeming them a worthless criminal and gunning them down. I believe in the rule of law and due process of law, however frustrating and imperfect that might be. I cringe when I hear decent people say we should take criminals behind the woodshed and shoot them. I can't imagine a society more disgusting than that.
You misremembered your source, or it was wrong. As for Zimmerman's thoughts, I'll his actions provide better evidence than your declarations.
I'm just saying the government has resources available to say how many households have guns.
As for neighborhood watch murders, it was your claim that people on neighborhood watch had been killed. Your job to back it up.
PearlWatson
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All it takes is a quick search to support my original memory:
https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/justice/florida-teen-shooting-burglaries
Your last sentence about Zimmerman's actions is just utter silliness, when you refuse to recognize his stated reasons for following Trayvon.
brow said:
"The government's" resources are too limited to make the claim that "most households don't have guns." Sorry.
My claim was more of a general one about people who have a greater chance of interacting with/getting in the way of criminals and the benefits of having a gun in that case.
It was you who wanted me to narrow it down and go on a pointless rainbow hunt.
PearlWatson
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Your "minding his own business" viewpoint is just so beautifully flawless I don't know why I wouldn't go along with it.
You answered your own question, but if you still can't follow I would be happy to provide the answer.
A BURGLARY (that's a wierd *** word)
He was protecting his neighborhood from a burglary? So where was all the stuff that Martin had after he broke into someone's house? Hell, where is the proof that he broke into someone's house after Zimmerman confronted him?
PearlWatson
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you ain't protecting if the crime already happened...you are punishing
Say again? You're saying Zimmerman was punishing Martin for a burglary that happened previously? And you're also advocating for it?
PearlWatson
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no, I meant Zimmerman thought he was protecting against another burglary by the same people
as for vigilantism...I'm leaning in favor of it when the police are unwilling or unable to deal with rampant crime...I know there are some problems with this stance so I'm still hesitant about it.
You know that violent crime has been decreasing for quite a long time now, right?
PearlWatson
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if you say so
All I know is that the sex offender registry idea ain't working too well.