Zimmerman/Martin Jury

[Gameface]

He stalked the kid, pursued him despite being advised not to, and when the kid finally had enough, Zimmermann had to "defend himself" with lethal force.

When had he just left the kid alone both would be alive and free today.

I fear the standard that this trial is setting. Apparently now, I can stalk someone, intimidate them, piss them off to the point that those pursued now feel the flight of fight response, and then I can claim self defense if they choose to fight.

Lets just analyze what would have happened had Martin chose the "flight" option. Zimmermann would have had an excuse to pursue him even more. "Oh man, these a holes always run away and get away with everything!" Instead, Martin chose to fight and the rest is history.

You cannot stalk annoy and otherwise infringe upon someone's rights until they've had enough and then call yourself acting in self defense. Sorry, but that's not the America I know.

And the fact that he lied (one of many lies. Lies about Martin grabbing his gun, yelling for help, the list goes on and on and on.) about not knowing about the "stand your ground" law is interesting too. Just how many people did this piece of trash intimidate and piss off knowing that he could "stand his ground" if something got too heated? Send him to prison. Maybe not for murder but for man slaughter. He needs to pay for the crime which he committed. And people need to stop making this a racial or political issue.

Have you been watching the trial? I know he's a villain in your eyes but the media portrayal of him and the reality are turning out to be pretty different. Travon laid in waiting then jumped out and punched Zimmerman in the face and told him he was going to kill him.

case closed.

 

[Gameface]

Perhaps Zimmerman's life was in danger--perhaps Martin really was going to hurt or kill him--and if that's self-defense, Zimmerman should walk. But let's not forget that Zimmerman was the one who followed Martin with a loaded gun, picked a fight with a loaded gun (Martin, presumably, did not know Zimmerman had a loaded gun), lost the fight (apparently), and then pulled the trigger. Zimmerman might be technically innocent, I don't know--but he's not morally innocent. Not by any stretch.

You were pretty solid in this opinion before the trial, facts be damned, you're sticking to it.

 

[Gameface]

You all have come to the realization that Trayvon was a thug, right. Not an innocent person minding his own business. Trayvon was the racist, said far more racially hateful things than Zimmerman. Trayvon had the chip on his shoulder. Treyvon was acting suspiciously and Zimmerman was right to want to keep an eye on him.

Had Trayvon really won the fight we'd be watching him as the defendant in a murder trial.

 

[slc]

Sad to say but only Zimmerman knows what really happened.
This sounds stupid but even if he's totally innocent court should find him guilty of something and give him some prison time.
This might help avoid hysteria and maybe save his life.
His life will always be in danger if he walks free.

 

[A-Train (old)]

Sad to say but only Zimmerman knows what really happened.
This sounds stupid but even if he's totally innocent court should find him guilty of something and give him some prison time.
This might help avoid hysteria and maybe save his life.
His life will always be in danger if he walks free.

This.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Have you been watching the trial? I know he's a villain in your eyes but the media portrayal of him and the reality are turning out to be pretty different. Travon laid in waiting then jumped out and punched Zimmerman in the face and told him he was going to kill him.

case closed.

According to the same guy who lied about Martin grabbing his gun, who lied about not knowing the stand your ground law, and lied about acting in self defense? Yeah, a credible guy to say the least!

Indeed the question needs to be asked "have you been paying attention to the trial?"

You do realize that Martin's DNA wasn't found on Zimmermann yet Zimmerman's DNA was found all over Martin. Doesn't exactly sound like Martin was all over Zimmermann's *** so he resulted to his gun being used as a last resort.

Kkkkkkk yeah. Zimmermann. What a wonderful guy.

Again, had he not infringed upon Martin's rights then all of this would have been avoided. Lets get back to Constitutional principles here. The Bill of Rights might help us out here if we actually read them.

By Zimmermann infringing upon Martin's rights he lost the protection of standing his ground. Even his professor acknowledged that. And that's the case. That's it. Game over. Zimmermann deserves and should get man slaughter. He needs to pay for his crime

 

[Gameface]

Sad to say but only Zimmerman knows what really happened.
This sounds stupid but even if he's totally innocent court should find him guilty of something and give him some prison time.
This might help avoid hysteria and maybe save his life.
His life will always be in danger if he walks free.

That's beyond silly. The court should seek fact and rule based on that.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Sad to say but only Zimmerman knows what really happened.
This sounds stupid but even if he's totally innocent court should find him guilty of something and give him some prison time.
This might help avoid hysteria and maybe save his life.
His life will always be in danger if he walks free.

And Zimmermann can't be trusted. He's lied at every opportunity. Has he said one truthful thing in this case? He and Jodi Arias would make a great couple. Neither tells the truth!

 

[Gameface]

According to the same guy who lied about Martin grabbing his gun, who lied about not knowing the stand your ground law, and lied about acting in self defense? Yeah, a credible guy to say the least!

Indeed the question needs to be asked "have you been paying attention to the trial?"

You do realize that Martin's DNA wasn't found on Zimmermann yet Zimmerman's DNA was found all over Martin. Doesn't exactly sound like Martin was all over Zimmermann's *** so he resulted to his gun being used as a last resort.

Kkkkkkk yeah. Zimmermann. What a wonderful guy.

Again, had he not infringed upon Martin's rights then all of this would have been avoided. Lets get back to Constitutional principles here. The Bill of Rights might help us out here if we actually read them.

By Zimmermann infringing upon Martin's rights he lost the protection of standing his ground. Even his professor acknowledged that. And that's the case. That's it. Game over. Zimmermann deserves and should get man slaughter. He needs to pay for his crime

Lied about Trayvon grabbing the gun? So the lead investigator doesn't think he lied but you do. Got it. So there were no fingerprints on the gun. Not Zimmerman's and not Trayvon's, so that issue has not been proven at all. Unless of course you want to say that Zimmerman didn't grab the gun either.

You realize the only injuries Trayvon had besides the bullet wound were abrasions on his knuckles, consistent with him hitting Zimmerman? Those were his only injuries.

You heard his lady friend say that Trayvon said Zimmerman was a creepy ****ing cracker? You agree I suppose so it's cool, but that's straight up racism. Trayvon hated Zimmerman from the moment he saw him. Trayvon wanted to hurt Zimmerman.

You've judged Zimmerman based on the narrative you prefer. Good on ya.

Infringed on what rights? You're getting silly here. If you're walking around outside I can follow you around all I want. If you run I can run to keep up. If you dodge behind a wall I can go take a look at the other side of the wall. What rights did Zimmerman violate?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Gamers, it's simple:

Zimmermann infringed upon Martin's rights because he was an over zealous, racist, wannabe mall cop d bag. You cannot do that. He was instructed not to pursue yet continued anyway. "these a holes, always getting away." that wasnt Zimmermann's call. in this case he was acting as detective, judge, and executioner. Once Martin had enough and confronted him/Zimmerman finally confronted him, it escalated to Martin being shot. However, the self defense clause had already been lost when Zimmermann relentlessly pursued the poor kid and infringed upon his rights.

This paranoid big brother approach is not the America I want. Hence, I want a guilty verdict. I want trash to pay for their crimes. I would think that a fellow conservative such as yourself would understand this.

 

[Gameface]

Gamers, it's simple:

Zimmermann infringed upon Martin's rights because he was an over zealous, racist, wannabe mall cop d bag. You cannot do that. He was instructed not to pursue yet continued anyway. "these a holes, always getting away." that wasnt Zimmermann's call. in this case he was acting as detective, judge, and executioner. Once Martin had enough and confronted him/Zimmerman finally confronted him, it escalated to Martin being shot. However, the self defense clause had already been lost when Zimmermann relentlessly pursued the poor kid and infringed upon his rights.

This paranoid big brother approach is not the America I want. Hence, I want a guilty verdict. I want trash to pay for their crimes. I would think that a fellow conservative such as yourself would understand this.

You left out the part where Trayvon ran, hid, waited then jumped out and punched Zimmerman in the face and told him he was going to kill him.

 

[Deleted member 365]

. Infringed on what rights? You're getting silly here. If you're walking around outside I can follow you around all I want. If you run I can run to keep up. If you dodge behind a wall I can go take a look at the other side of the wall. What rights did Zimmerman violate?

Enough said. This stands by itself