Put Kanter to rest...once and for all.

[LogGrad98]

If the Jazz hired Anderson when they could have for basically nothing Kanter would have scored 25+ here. Nobody would care on defense just like they dont in Oklahoma. A win is a win. Nobody cared when Shaq couldnt defense pick and roll.

After we dropped kanter we started to win. Explain please.

Also, where is your vote?

Man we need better trolls around here. The trollery has gone seriously downhill since HH left.

 

[Diamond77]

This thread was not necessary. If the Jazz could not afford to keep all 3 players, Kanter was the most likely candidates to be traded.

We are all debating the Jazz got almost nothing in return trading him. It seems like Lindsey shopped him only when he asked publicly for the trade, too late. The Kanter situation could have been managed much better.

You don't trade a young big man that guarantees 20 points and 10 rebounds and has All-Star potential for garbage.
I don't remember another similar trade in the last seasons. Maybe the Jazz underestimated his value.

 

[tleikheen]

After we dropped kanter we started to win. Explain please.

and now the Jazz are losing ...4 out of their last 5 ...and their last 3 home games

What's the problem ...... easy ....what was predicted in the 1st place ,lack of offense...not enough points

Love the defense ,but the Jazz are poor offensively ...where they going to get points

 

[LogGrad98]

Yeah, this is the same poop you were posting before our team chemistry suddenly flourished and Utah just happened to look like a much, much better team. There's no doubt that Utah sold low, but Kanter basically forced our hand. Also, I'm really impressed by the fact that Kanter can magically pass the ball now. I believe that Kanter was mismanaged somewhat under Corbin, but that's a pathetic excuse for playing like a selfish d-bag this year, and then demand a trade because of what happened a year or two ago. At the end of the day, Kanter was a malcontent who didn't want to be here. You and others have scoffed at the fact that there were chemistry issues, but it's pretty obvious by the way the team responded that our chemistry blossomed by shipping his *** out of town.
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Having said all that, if Utah would have had a decent chance of signing Kanter to a multi-year deal in the offseason, I would have been in favor of riding it out, even with the chemistry problems. Unfortunately, that possibility was iffy at best, and once he asked for a trade, the writing was on the wall. Having him take the QO would have been worthless, as his trade value would have remained limited. Keeping him and sending him to the bench would have been pointless. The ONLY reason to keep him would have been to maximize him as a trade asset, and that doesn't happen by sending him to the bench.
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Honestly, I can understand people being disappointed by the return we got. However, if anyone thinks we could have kept him as a part of the team going forward, I'd have to say those people were out of touch with what was going on with the team. Signing him to a multi-year deal would have been great, but only because he would have been a valuable trade asset.
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Finally, I think fans on both sides of this argument should just let it go for now, and see how things play out the rest of the year and in the offseason, instead of trying to claim validation after a few good/bad games. Kanter's attitude was a big part of the problem in Utah, and he's going to have some of the same issues in OKC and probably just about anywhere he goes. Maybe he learned from the experience and will alter his behavior, but I'm betting when all is said and done, Kanter will ultimately become a malcontent in OKC as well. My gut feeling is Kanter wants to be on the big stage, and will not want to play for a small market team like OKC. I'll just go ahead and bet my left nut that at the end of the day, Jazz fans will realize we got lucky by breaking ties when we did.

Best post on this entire subject hands-down.

This thread was not necessary. If the Jazz could not afford to keep all 3 players, Kanter was the most likely candidates to be traded.

We are all debating the Jazz got almost nothing in return trading him. It seems like Lindsey shopped him only when he asked publicly for the trade, too late. The Kanter situation could have been managed much better.

You don't trade a young big man that guarantees 20 points and 10 rebounds and has All-Star potential for garbage.
I don't remember another similar trade in the last seasons. Maybe the Jazz underestimated his value.

This is why this thread was necessary. So many like you think we just ignored tons of offers to purposely take the worst offer we could find. Freak outlined very well why it ended up where it did. If you dispute that please put something out there other than conjecture and vague "but we got screwed cuz we're so dumb" comments. Yes I am sure if we had just waited until summer that we would have without a doubt made a 3 way trade with cleveland and minnesota that would have brought LeBron and Wiggins here next year both on 8 year contracts. Yeah, that was highly likely.

 

[LogGrad98]

and now the Jazz are losing ...4 out of their last 5 ...and their last 3 home games

What's the problem ...... easy ....what was predicted in the 1st place ,lack of offense...not enough points

Love the defense ,but the Jazz are poor offensively ...where they going to get points

Just happened to coincide with Hayward being out. So you completely ignore the huge improvement we made in defense, the playoff teams we steamrolled, and cherry pick a streak with an obvious cause as your argument? Yeah.

 

[Diamond77]

After we dropped kanter we started to win. Explain please.

We would have won most of those games with Kanter too. Booker got Kanter minutes but his contribution didn't improve. So are you telling to me that if the Jazz traded Booker instead Kanter, we wouldn't win those games? Gobert would have taken Booker minutes and being a huge impact in any case.

Jazz started to win because Hood returned from the injury after the All-Star break too and Exum in the starting lineup made a difference too.

 

[Diamond77]

This is why this thread was necessary. So many like you think we just ignored tons of offers to purposely take the worst offer we could find.

Can you read? I just wrote that in my opinion Lindsey began to shop Kanter only when he pushed for a trade close to deadline, too late. Trade rumours concerning Kanter began only after his public outburst.

Maybe I'm wrong but this is my opinion.

 

[Maneesh]

Can you read? I just wrote that in my opinion Lindsey began to shop Kanter only when he pushed for a trade close to deadline, too late. Maybe I'm wrong but this is my opinion.

Enough of this DISGRACE! We are ok without Kanter and are happy with Gobert and Favors. Please leave us alone!

 

[Maneesh]

We would have won most of those games with Kanter too. Booker got Kanter minutes but his contribution didn't improve. So are you telling to me that if the Jazz traded Booker instead Kanter, we wouldn't win those games? Gobert would have taken Booker minutes and being a huge impact in any case.

Jazz started to win because Hood returned from the injury after the All-Star break too and Exum in the starting lineup made a difference too.

Gobert and Favors are playing 35 minutes each after the trade. What minutes you think are left for your precious? His head would explode beyond belief for those minutes while he watched the others get so much more.

 

[Maneesh]

Just happened to coincide with Hayward being out. So you completely ignore the huge improvement we made in defense, the playoff teams we steamrolled, and cherry pick a streak with an obvious cause as your argument? Yeah.

Its ok. You cant argue them. I know enough about them.

 

[LogGrad98]

Can you read? I just wrote that in my opinion Lindsey began to shop Kanter only when he pushed for a trade close to deadline, too late. Trade rumours concerning Kanter began only after his public outburst.

Maybe I'm wrong but this is my opinion.

So you really think the man being paid millions of dollars to manage a professional sports organization just sat on his hands waiting around until a player yelled "trade me" before he picked up the phone? If you really think these guys are not in CONSTANT talks with others around the league about this sort of thing, then you are just as clueless as you come across. The fact that we didn't get a better deal speaks more to what was being offered for Kanter than it does to the FO lack of attention to the matter. I am sure Kanter's demand for a trade didn't help any of that either.

 

[Sexual Favors]

there actually is a way we could've kept all three and played them 30 mins a contest, so the premise of this post is garbage. I refer you to the increase in the salary cap without smoothing, and not signing Trevor Booker.

With 30 mins a night for each, Kanter wouldn't have felt like he was being demoted, and Gobert wouldn't have felt like he deserved more. Problem solved.