There's something about the possibility of kids falling thousands of feet to their deaths that triggers joy in most of us.
LDS General Conference - Apr 2015
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There's something about the possibility of kids falling thousands of feet to their deaths that triggers joy in most of us.
So that if someone has a reason that a certain individual should not be in a certain calling, they can speak to the leaders (usually stake president) in private to be sure that it is known.
In a ward that I used to be in, someone was called as bishop. Someone from the ward knew about some offenses that he had made and made them known. He ended up not being called bishop.
It is not a place to object to principles or teachings of the prophets. Those people can object with signs on the street outside all they want.
Holland just knows how to speak and doesn't mince words. He has the best talks almost every conference.
RJF
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Not to change the subject(normal for a message board) but I really enjoy the quote: "when I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That is my religion."
Back to topic: though I am neither a husband nor a father, "Your sons will learn how to be husbands and fathers by observing the way you fulfill these roles.” really resonated with me.
Back to topic: though I am neither a husband nor a father, "Your sons will learn how to be husbands and fathers by observing the way you fulfill these roles.” really resonated with me.
Tell that to my three daughters who think poop and fart jokes are what makes the world spin. You bass turds and your male offspring make me sick.
seattlejazzfan
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Lol. I'm glad my kids aren't the only ones. Three of them are girls, fwiw.
Is or was Elder Holland's reference to "eternal anguish" a synonym for hell when he was telling that Snow Canyon story? And if so, am I ****ed as an Atheist because I'm not repenting or abiding by the divine commandments? Is it safe to assume that even if I live a good life and do well, I'm still screwed in the eyes of the Mormon church?
RJF
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Though I was born and raised LDS, I was always taught that those who don't "know/accept God" here on earth will have that opportunity in heaven. I can't answer from a doctrinal standpoint as I don't know the doctrine.
seattlejazzfan
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No, that's not safe to assume. It would be interesting to know the context, because if he said that, he did a poor job of communicating his message, as that definitely doesn't jive with the doctrine.
No, but your sodomy with cats will probably be a big hurdle.
https://www.lds.org/church/news/jeffrey-r-holland-where-justice-love-and-mercy-meet?lang=eng
Break it down for me. I'm curious.
seattlejazzfan
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He's saying Christ's atonement saved people from eternal anguish. He was talking about the human race in general. In essence he was teaching about grace.
I appreciate the response.
So Christ's atonement even saved the lives of non-believers?
seattlejazzfan
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Non believers who sodomize cats, maybe not. But in all seriousness, of course. IMO, it's about living a Christlike life more than believing in Christ, per se.
I agree. It's rather difficult to argue against anything Mr. Jesus had to say.
So just to be clear, you're a communist?
Except that whole sodomy thing, right?
RandyForRubio
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That ummm....that doesn't sound doctrinally correct to me. I'm not entirely familiar with Mormons, but I do believe that they require belief in Jesus for salvation. That's certainly what the Bible (which they believe) teaches.