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"I think we're going to have strong indications of life beyond Earth within a decade, and I think we're going to have definitive evidence within 20 to 30 years," Nasa chief scientist Ellen Stofan said .

"We know where to look. We know how to look," Stofan added, "In most cases we have the technology, and we're on a path to implementing it. And so I think we're definitely on the road."
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Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-nasa-chief-scientist-believes-10161694.html


So today my senior approached me and said he'd heard this on the TV. I am doubtful to these kinds of announcements most of the time. And just looked first if there was a foreign source. There was. Then looked for the NASA source. Yeap.

I really can't understand people who "strongly claim" that there cannot be intelligent life existing in somewhere else. All this logic and knowledge of the size of the universe gave you that impression? Seriously?

But did we ever contact them before? Discussable.

I know that NASA digs the ground for more money and the justification for the fonds they receive.

I also know that a life devoted to searching of the unknown can drive some souls crazy.

What do you folks think of that one?

Did NASA falsed the Chief?

Will we actually experience the inevitable experience in our very own lifetimes?

And will any part of the Earth be able to talk about anything else whence this happen?
 
It will be exciting for a while then people will go back to the drive through and Christmas shopping at Walmart.
 
I think it's incredibly exciting. I hope to be alive when we do make contact. I mean, it's ****ing mind blowing. Great thread. Will sub.
 
I think intelligent life might be pretty far off, but life, as in bacteria and small things seems pretty reasonable in the next couple decades. Even finding another habitable planet relatively close to us seems pretty reasonable.
 
VINYLONE said:
I think it's incredibly exciting. I hope to be alive when we do make contact. I mean, it's ****ing mind blowing. Great thread. Will sub.
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First contact is an experience so different and so incredible that it is indeed mind blowing to think it could happen. It would be awesome to see.
 
LogGrad98 said:
It will be exciting for a while then people will go back to the drive through and Christmas shopping at Walmart.
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Humanity's advancing knowledge has changed society profoundly. The question of whether an event affected the mundane details of your life is hardly relevant to the significance of the event to the big picture.
 
Siro said:
It's a big deal for those who like more of a rational perspective on life.
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Hi Siro, I think it's rational thinking. Us earthlings have plans on terraforming Mars. Are you saying that in such scenario 'Martians' never would acknowledge or accept the fact that they had come from us?
 
Jamezz said:
Hi Siro, I think it's rational thinking. Us earthlings have plans on terraforming Mars. Are you saying that in such scenario 'Martians' never would acknowledge or accept the fact that they had come from us?
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It is not impossible that the Earth was seeded by aliens or whatever. The hypothesis is called panspermia, and I've seen some scientific research that tries to evaluate the theory. But science is about evidence that we can all examine and analyze. As far as science is concerned, we haven't had any confirmations of extra-terrestrial life yet. That's what so exciting about it. Not conspiracy theory kind of evidence, but rational evidence that can change the perspective of humanity at large, and in a meaningful way.
 
Siro said:
It is not impossible that the Earth was seeded by aliens or whatever. The hypothesis is called panspermia, and I've seen some scientific research that tries to evaluate the theory. But science is about evidence that we can all examine and analyze. As far as science is concerned, we haven't had any confirmations of extra-terrestrial life yet. That's what so exciting about it. Not conspiracy theory kind of evidence, but rational evidence that can change the perspective of humanity at large, and in a meaningful way.
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I get what you're saying, real factual/visual evidence. I would love that as well, I wished it became so blatantly obvious that not even the govt could hide it from us any longer. Who do they think they are anyway, considering themselves 'entitled' to knowing about extraterrestrial life but hiding it from the rest of us.
 
VINYLONE said:
I think it's incredibly exciting. I hope to be alive when we do make contact. I mean, it's ****ing mind blowing. Great thread. Will sub.
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Yeah, that's the #1 thing I hope to be alive long enough to see.
 
addictionary said:
"I think we're going to have strong indications of life beyond Earth within a decade, and I think we're going to have definitive evidence within 20 to 30 years," Nasa chief scientist Ellen Stofan said .

"We know where to look. We know how to look," Stofan added, "In most cases we have the technology, and we're on a path to implementing it. And so I think we're definitely on the road."
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Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-nasa-chief-scientist-believes-10161694.html


So today my senior approached me and said he'd heard this on the TV. I am doubtful to these kinds of announcements most of the time. And just looked first if there was a foreign source. There was. Then looked for the NASA source. Yeap.

I really can't understand people who "strongly claim" that there cannot be intelligent life existing in somewhere else. All this logic and knowledge of the size of the universe gave you that impression? Seriously?

But did we ever contact them before? Discussable.

I know that NASA digs the ground for more money and the justification for the fonds they receive.

I also know that a life devoted to searching of the unknown can drive some souls crazy.

What do you folks think of that one?

Did NASA falsed the Chief?

Will we actually experience the inevitable experience in our very own lifetimes?

And will any part of the Earth be able to talk about anything else whence this happen?
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You seriously misunderstood the quote. She's talking about LIFE, not about intelligent life.

Most scientists would probably feel that the chances of life elsewhere in the galaxy are good. And the chances that life exists close enough to us that we will be able to observe such life also seems pretty good. But the question of whether there is any other INTELLIGENT life in the galaxy is one where there is absolutely no consensus. And no reputable scientist that I know of feels like we'll be contacting other intelligent life in the next 20 years.
 
colton said:
You seriously misunderstood the quote. She's talking about LIFE, not about intelligent life.

Most scientists would probably feel that the chances of life elsewhere in the galaxy are good. And the chances that life exists close enough to us that we will be able to observe such life also seems pretty good. But the question of whether there is any other INTELLIGENT life in the galaxy is one where there is absolutely no consensus. And no reputable scientist that I know of feels like we'll be contacting other intelligent life in the next 20 years.
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Thanks for spoiling the hype colty. Now the ETs will think "Man these guys are no fun. Let's bail."
 
colton said:
You seriously misunderstood the quote. She's talking about LIFE, not about intelligent life.

Most scientists would probably feel that the chances of life elsewhere in the galaxy are good. And the chances that life exists close enough to us that we will be able to observe such life also seems pretty good. But the question of whether there is any other INTELLIGENT life in the galaxy is one where there is absolutely no consensus. And no reputable scientist that I know of feels like we'll be contacting other intelligent life in the next 20 years.
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The significant thing is to find life. If life evolved independently more than once in a single galaxy, then obviously intelligent life can be expected to have evolved somewhere. I'm talking about animal intelligence here, and not human level intelligence. The former is inevitable if multicellular life exists. Even human level intelligence becomes very likely if we find complex animals in the Milky Way.
 
b_line said:
I think intelligent life might be pretty far off, but life, as in bacteria and small things seems pretty reasonable in the next couple decades.Even finding another habitable planet relatively close to us seems pretty reasonable.
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What do you consider "relatively close" ?

The nearest star to earth is 4.24 light years away. That means that even if we could find a way to travel at the speed if light, it would still take 4.24 years to get there. And that's just talking about the NEAREST star.

What that means is, we either are going to have to figure out make worm holes, or we probably aren't going to visit any planets outside our solar system ever. That's the cold stark reality. I don't think that any scientists believe we can get solid matter to move at the speed of light either.
 
Hack said:
What do you consider "relatively close" ?

The nearest star to earth is 4.24 light years away. That means that even if we could find a way to travel at the speed if light, it would still take 4.24 years to get there. And that's just talking about the NEAREST star.

What that means is, we either are going to have to figure out make worm holes, or we probably aren't going to visit any planets outside our solar system ever. That's the cold stark reality. I don't think that any scientists believe we can get solid matter to move at the speed of light either.
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Ever is a pretty long time. Imagine what the world is going to be like 20 years from now. How about a 1000? How about a trillion? If humanity survives long enough, technical knowledge will make current hurdles trivial. For example, if you can beam the information that makes you up directly into the desired location to be reconstructed, you could travel across the universe instantly (subjectively). Even if it takes a million objective years, what does it matter to a species with level of technical sophistication? And that's without going into things outside of known laws of physics, like wormholes.
 
colton said:
You seriously misunderstood the quote. She's talking about LIFE, not about intelligent life.

Most scientists would probably feel that the chances of life elsewhere in the galaxy are good. And the chances that life exists close enough to us that we will be able to observe such life also seems pretty good. But the question of whether there is any other INTELLIGENT life in the galaxy is one where there is absolutely no consensus. And no reputable scientist that I know of feels like we'll be contacting other intelligent life in the next 20 years.
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Can you explain this from your high level perspective? I just cannot wrap my mind around the idea of anyone with even a cursory modern education not thinking intelligent life elsewhere is a guarantee. I understand that it's highly technical and all but if you could give the basics of the other side's argument I'd appreciate it.
 
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