More like it was Snyder being a bit scared to yank a starter and hurt his fragile emotions.
14-15 Season Grades
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More like it was Snyder being a bit scared to yank a starter and hurt his fragile emotions.
Jazz4ever
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Transparent as glass.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Gobert. B+. Great defense great leader and desire but at times got beat by his man in mid to low post and was pushed around and struggled at times struggled with finishing. If not for those things he gets an A.
Hayward. B- stepped up as our go to and best player and more consistent as a shooter. However he often disappeared For long stretches and at times needed to demand the ball more and take over more consistently at the end of games.
Favors. A- favors made huge strides on offense both in the low post and on the perimeter on offense. I did not see him developing a midrange game this last year, and likewise he was 100% improved in the low post. He showed improved touch and footwork and finishing ability. What kept him from an A is that he felt he had to defer to Gobert on defense namely rebounding. I would've liked to see him get another rebound a game to take some pressure off of Gobert.
Burks. A+. Part of this better then expected grade has to do with his work and study he did while sitting out due to injury. Also he was at all the games cheering on his mates. Think he did a lot of growing up and maturing. He showed he had a great attitude about his injury setback. And think he is much more respected by his teammates for it. As for his work on the court. Yes he was less aggressive driving and getting to the ft line but feel he had to adjust to him not being healthy. He did however make himself a force on the boards after he was challenged by coach Q to rebound better he did. Also he seemed to really improve his mid and long range game. I am confident that his aggressive nature will return if 100% healthy. this year Burks put in a lot of work and did a lot to hopefully raise his on court IQ. If he has done that... Look out!!!
Ingles. A+. Wow what a diamond in the rough. Thank yo Clippers for overlooking his talent. And applaud Q for seeing who Ingles could be. Ingles. Ingles is a great glue guy off the bench that can take control of the offense as a point forward. As the year went on he adapted to the NBA game his he was no longer just a set shooter. He did it off the dribble and as a catch and shoot player, and while doing those things improved his accuracy to boot after the Allstar break he shot over 40% from three. Hell even now he's underrated here at jazzfanz. Also lets not forget he also played hard and scrappy on defense and very cunning on both ends of the court. He also showed that he could improve on his mistakes and shortcomings. For example he seemed to always get caught on the base line with nowhere to go. By seasons end this was no longer a problem. One of my favorite players.
Exum. D. First want to say that he looked improved from SL to the first game of the season. His shot and handles were better it seemed and good on him playing all 82 and showing great potential and better then expected defense. The bad. Exum was afraid to step out of his comfort zone therefor he made few mistakes, and as a rookie this is how we learn and get better. Hopefully we see that from him this year.
Burke. D- felt he took a step back as a playmaker. Burks played more like Kobe then say a true pg. he turned the ball over a lot more this year. I remember Burke getting praised for protecting the ball. I will praise him for his willingness to play a bench role. If he wants to remain relivent, he needs to realize his core strengths and weaknesses and adjust accordingly.
Sorry this is all I have time for. Might do more later. Would like to get to Booker and lilsap.
Hayward. B- stepped up as our go to and best player and more consistent as a shooter. However he often disappeared For long stretches and at times needed to demand the ball more and take over more consistently at the end of games.
Favors. A- favors made huge strides on offense both in the low post and on the perimeter on offense. I did not see him developing a midrange game this last year, and likewise he was 100% improved in the low post. He showed improved touch and footwork and finishing ability. What kept him from an A is that he felt he had to defer to Gobert on defense namely rebounding. I would've liked to see him get another rebound a game to take some pressure off of Gobert.
Burks. A+. Part of this better then expected grade has to do with his work and study he did while sitting out due to injury. Also he was at all the games cheering on his mates. Think he did a lot of growing up and maturing. He showed he had a great attitude about his injury setback. And think he is much more respected by his teammates for it. As for his work on the court. Yes he was less aggressive driving and getting to the ft line but feel he had to adjust to him not being healthy. He did however make himself a force on the boards after he was challenged by coach Q to rebound better he did. Also he seemed to really improve his mid and long range game. I am confident that his aggressive nature will return if 100% healthy. this year Burks put in a lot of work and did a lot to hopefully raise his on court IQ. If he has done that... Look out!!!
Ingles. A+. Wow what a diamond in the rough. Thank yo Clippers for overlooking his talent. And applaud Q for seeing who Ingles could be. Ingles. Ingles is a great glue guy off the bench that can take control of the offense as a point forward. As the year went on he adapted to the NBA game his he was no longer just a set shooter. He did it off the dribble and as a catch and shoot player, and while doing those things improved his accuracy to boot after the Allstar break he shot over 40% from three. Hell even now he's underrated here at jazzfanz. Also lets not forget he also played hard and scrappy on defense and very cunning on both ends of the court. He also showed that he could improve on his mistakes and shortcomings. For example he seemed to always get caught on the base line with nowhere to go. By seasons end this was no longer a problem. One of my favorite players.
Exum. D. First want to say that he looked improved from SL to the first game of the season. His shot and handles were better it seemed and good on him playing all 82 and showing great potential and better then expected defense. The bad. Exum was afraid to step out of his comfort zone therefor he made few mistakes, and as a rookie this is how we learn and get better. Hopefully we see that from him this year.
Burke. D- felt he took a step back as a playmaker. Burks played more like Kobe then say a true pg. he turned the ball over a lot more this year. I remember Burke getting praised for protecting the ball. I will praise him for his willingness to play a bench role. If he wants to remain relivent, he needs to realize his core strengths and weaknesses and adjust accordingly.
Sorry this is all I have time for. Might do more later. Would like to get to Booker and lilsap.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Want to get to hood as well
It seems your end of year grades for some are holding them to a much higher standard that the beginning of the year, with the exception of Hayward maybe. Ingles and Burks get A+ while Gobert and Hayward get B's? Whatever, your grades but I find them strange.
Cappy_Smurf
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I don't know, maybe you think Snyder is an idiot. I, however, do not. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that Gobert should be starting over Kanter. There really aren't any good reasons for it other than maximizing Enes as an asset. I'm gonna just go ahead and give Snyder credit for being on the same page as DL. You believe what you want.
Jazzfanz : A+
suckup
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Well, it would have also meant a player lost his job due to injury since Gobert really exploded when Kanter was out. Some coaches just don't believe in that. I think trade value had a huge part in the decision. Also think they may have been hoping Kanter would be ok as a 6th man getting the same amount of minutes but more touches - just like Trey.
1. I think they were completely surprised by how fast Rudy came on.
2. I think they may have discussed making Rudy a starter next season.
3. Rudy forced them to change plans.
karl malone
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(C being what was expected entering the season)
Exum: Struggled as expected, but far surpassed expectations defensively (C+)
Burks: INC
Hayward: Expectations were high after the max contract extension & he erased any doubts that lingered after a poor season the year before (B+)
Favors: Expectations were also high after a lucrative contract extension, but I don't think anyone saw him making the type of jump that he did (A-)
Gobert: The improvement that he made from year 1 to year 2 is as impressive as any one that I have ever witnessed (A++)
Burke: After having 1 of the better rookie seasons (in an admittedly weak draft class) last year, he not only failed to improve but appeared to actually regress (D+, mostly due to the way he handled being benched)
Hood: As a late 1st rd draft pick, he performed like a lottery pick (albeit in a somewhat limited sample size) (A-)
Booker: Brought in as buy-low FA role player, he did as expected & provided energy, hustle, & leadership off of the bench (B)
Ingles: After initially struggling, he turned it around & proved that he belongs in the NBA (B)
Millsap: While he will likely never become more than a defensive specialist, he showed that he can provide value to a team solely with his defensive tenacity (C+)
Snyder: As a 1st time head coach, he couldn't have had much better of a debut (A)
Team: Considering how much success the team was able to have relative to it's level of talent, depth, & experience, this was about as good of a year that could have been expected (A-)
Exum: Struggled as expected, but far surpassed expectations defensively (C+)
Burks: INC
Hayward: Expectations were high after the max contract extension & he erased any doubts that lingered after a poor season the year before (B+)
Favors: Expectations were also high after a lucrative contract extension, but I don't think anyone saw him making the type of jump that he did (A-)
Gobert: The improvement that he made from year 1 to year 2 is as impressive as any one that I have ever witnessed (A++)
Burke: After having 1 of the better rookie seasons (in an admittedly weak draft class) last year, he not only failed to improve but appeared to actually regress (D+, mostly due to the way he handled being benched)
Hood: As a late 1st rd draft pick, he performed like a lottery pick (albeit in a somewhat limited sample size) (A-)
Booker: Brought in as buy-low FA role player, he did as expected & provided energy, hustle, & leadership off of the bench (B)
Ingles: After initially struggling, he turned it around & proved that he belongs in the NBA (B)
Millsap: While he will likely never become more than a defensive specialist, he showed that he can provide value to a team solely with his defensive tenacity (C+)
Snyder: As a 1st time head coach, he couldn't have had much better of a debut (A)
Team: Considering how much success the team was able to have relative to it's level of talent, depth, & experience, this was about as good of a year that could have been expected (A-)
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Joe Bagadonuts
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Gobert A I expected him to have a great year, but not this great.
Favors B+ I really like Favors but I want to see more intensity.
Hayward A- He put himself under a lot of pressure with his contract. I'd soured on him, but he delivered.
Hood B+ Probably the biggest steal of the '14 draft.
Exum C+ I have high expectations over the next two years. I do not feel impatient like many here.
Burks Inc The little we saw was impacted by more significant injury than I understood.
Burke D He's just not the right fit, but I agree that he handled his role change with class.
Jingles B- One of my best friends is Aussie. They're just cool dudes.
Millsap C+ For a D-league pickup he was impressive.
Booker B I loved the fire!
Evans C- Not an NBA talent.
Kanter F- An epically horrible ending.
Snyder A Fantastic hire!
Favors B+ I really like Favors but I want to see more intensity.
Hayward A- He put himself under a lot of pressure with his contract. I'd soured on him, but he delivered.
Hood B+ Probably the biggest steal of the '14 draft.
Exum C+ I have high expectations over the next two years. I do not feel impatient like many here.
Burks Inc The little we saw was impacted by more significant injury than I understood.
Burke D He's just not the right fit, but I agree that he handled his role change with class.
Jingles B- One of my best friends is Aussie. They're just cool dudes.
Millsap C+ For a D-league pickup he was impressive.
Booker B I loved the fire!
Evans C- Not an NBA talent.
Kanter F- An epically horrible ending.
Snyder A Fantastic hire!
Hopefully every player is injured for a vast majority of the season next year so they can all get A+'s. To top it off, they should be kinda underwhelming when they are healthy and playing.
Thee Jazz Fan
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What the hell do u want me to give him, or say? He was out for the rest of the season and completely did all he could to improve what he could as far as his knowledge of coach Q's system, and was completely devoted to his team, and was always with the team, studied lots of film and was great cheering on his teammates. I think he will fit in much better into the offense and defense. If healthy. I expect a breakout year from Burks
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Thee Jazz Fan
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Bottom line is he preformed better then expected with the hand he was dealt.
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Thee Jazz Fan
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More grades.
Booker. B+. At times he bogged down the offense too much dribbling and not enough playmaking as far as getting teammates involved. Or he'd have gotten an A. I'm sure a lot of it is due to his inexperience as a rookie. Hope to see improvement here
Millsap. B. Very intensive in your face defender, and aggressive offensive player wasn't afraid to shoot or find his shot. Too many turnovers and needs to learn to play aggressive defense without fouling. Be a smarter player.
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Booker. B+. At times he bogged down the offense too much dribbling and not enough playmaking as far as getting teammates involved. Or he'd have gotten an A. I'm sure a lot of it is due to his inexperience as a rookie. Hope to see improvement here
Millsap. B. Very intensive in your face defender, and aggressive offensive player wasn't afraid to shoot or find his shot. Too many turnovers and needs to learn to play aggressive defense without fouling. Be a smarter player.
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Thee Jazz Fan
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Oh and Kanters grade is Bitch!!
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