Following potential 2015 draftees
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Thee Jazz Fan
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I put a lot of value in the fact that it was Dekker the team leaned on during their most important games being the NCAA tournament. The fact that he's had this rise isn't unprecedented. In fact we can look at our own Utah Jazz. Drafting two players who made themselves known during their own tourney runs. D-Will and Hayward.
Dekker may not be the sexy pick but I just see the measurable's and his intangibles, the intensity he plays with and the skills are there, and if there is a coaching staff that can get the most out of a young player it's our coaching staff.
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orangello
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Didn't Trey do the same thing too?
We might just have a philosophical difference of opinion. I'd rather draft someone with high upside then go for someone who I believe will just be an OK role player.
The Jazz have a strong core right now, so I'd rather see them shoot for the moon then just settle on someone that would just be okay in the league.
Again, that's my personal philosophy for this year's draft.
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Thee Jazz Fan
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My point is that to go along with the intangibles. Hayward and Gordon have the tools to thrive in the league where Trey really doesn't. Both Deron and Hayward had questions regarding their shooting and were able to put those questions to rest because they had the measurable's and physical qualities to succeed. So in my eyes Trey's example is not quite the same and I'd put Dekker in Deron and Hawards Category.
I understand the thought of going with the higher potential guys, but at the same time I'm glad Utah didn't go with that, and passing up guys like Stockton or Hayward or Even Deron.
U could be right we won't know till games start. I just have a feeling about Dekker.
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Trey Lyles is compared to Carlos Boozer on nbadraft
That seems like an awful awful comparison. He's more of Marvin Williams or a young and skinny Boris Diaw than Boozer.
That seems like an awful awful comparison. He's more of Marvin Williams or a young and skinny Boris Diaw than Boozer.
Game6Conley
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1 week to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOMevYoZfE
The Jazz announcers would love Gudaitis. Seems like a Hansboro or Lou Admunsun type that can stick around.
Coach Ellis
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I'd add two. The late 1st round / early 2nd round is projected to be loaded with big men with potential. I'd definitely try to position myself to get one of them, regardless of who the Jazz draft at 12 (or higher). Any of Wood, McCullough, Jaiteh, Alexander, Holmes, Gudaitis, Martin, Christmas, Mickey or Hernangomez could all end of being steals at that point. I'd try to find the one I like most and to walk away with that guy from the 2nd round.
My personal preference is Mouhammadou Jaiteh, but I'd be happy with any of the players I listed.
Binge listening to all these Locke draft podcast... and I just can't stand his obsession with Trey Lyles.
Boy, I swear, if he brings up Trey Lyles one more time.... !!!!!!
Boy, I swear, if he brings up Trey Lyles one more time.... !!!!!!
This guy sounds interesting. With a lot of the 2nd rounders withdrawing or getting injured, he could be a good pick.
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Shawn-Dawson-62242/
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Shawn-Dawson-62242/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iji1X3mLeAg
Seems pretty fluid and athletic.
Can finish with either hand but is a lefty.
Seems pretty fluid and athletic.
Can finish with either hand but is a lefty.
Carbon13
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I love this breakdown by a scout from the Russillo article on grantland today. This and Peltons love for him makes me want to find a way to get Hunter.
"Not a special shooter. He’s good because he makes free throws, and that’s a barometer for me. If you can make them, it’s a sedentary shot, and it speaks about your stroke. You have time and you are compact. There’s a routine and a rhythm. Make free throws, you can make shots. Here is an example: [Georgia State’s] R.J. Hunter, I think, shot 87 percent from the free throw line [.878] and 29 percent from 3 (.305). That was this year, but in the past he was better. So we are like, This guy can make shots. For whatever reason, he didn’t. But I’m not going to discard him as a shooter, because his stroke is too good.
We watched Hunter in a workout, and we were like, This guy can really ****ing shoot. Then you watch tape and you are like, Man, why did he take that shot? I get that the shot-clock-ending shot, you got to ****ing take that one, but 10 seconds left and you are squeezing one? You are like, Hmm. You’d have to ask him and watch tape with him. Ask him what he’s doing.
I’ll never forget Ray Allen telling a story. You have no idea how hard it is to attempt 20 shots in a game. Try to get 20 quality shots? It’s impossible, no way. When you are the featured player, you are defended differently. Your goal in a game should be getting something he called “free looks” on wide-open shots, and make six of them, knowing that the other 12 are going to be contested, and they are so ****ing hard to make. You might go ****ing 3-for-12 or 4-for-12, but if you go 6-for-8? OK, now you are 9-for-20 or 10-for-20, and you’re whole again. So, on the night, you are 3-8 on your free looks and then 3-for-12 on your contested ones, then you have those ****ing horrible shooting nights."
"Not a special shooter. He’s good because he makes free throws, and that’s a barometer for me. If you can make them, it’s a sedentary shot, and it speaks about your stroke. You have time and you are compact. There’s a routine and a rhythm. Make free throws, you can make shots. Here is an example: [Georgia State’s] R.J. Hunter, I think, shot 87 percent from the free throw line [.878] and 29 percent from 3 (.305). That was this year, but in the past he was better. So we are like, This guy can make shots. For whatever reason, he didn’t. But I’m not going to discard him as a shooter, because his stroke is too good.
We watched Hunter in a workout, and we were like, This guy can really ****ing shoot. Then you watch tape and you are like, Man, why did he take that shot? I get that the shot-clock-ending shot, you got to ****ing take that one, but 10 seconds left and you are squeezing one? You are like, Hmm. You’d have to ask him and watch tape with him. Ask him what he’s doing.
I’ll never forget Ray Allen telling a story. You have no idea how hard it is to attempt 20 shots in a game. Try to get 20 quality shots? It’s impossible, no way. When you are the featured player, you are defended differently. Your goal in a game should be getting something he called “free looks” on wide-open shots, and make six of them, knowing that the other 12 are going to be contested, and they are so ****ing hard to make. You might go ****ing 3-for-12 or 4-for-12, but if you go 6-for-8? OK, now you are 9-for-20 or 10-for-20, and you’re whole again. So, on the night, you are 3-8 on your free looks and then 3-for-12 on your contested ones, then you have those ****ing horrible shooting nights."
Yeah, how dare he like a player from this draft. It's like he's on Jazzfanz or something.
