If you peruse this list, you'll see most all of these guys play about 20 minutes or less. Someone taking away minutes from Pliess and Lyles isn't quite like two #3 draft picks being on the bench.
But thanks for the negative rep.
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If you peruse this list, you'll see most all of these guys play about 20 minutes or less. Someone taking away minutes from Pliess and Lyles isn't quite like two #3 draft picks being on the bench.
But thanks for the negative rep.
I think we've got a decent shot at being middle of the pack playoffs in the western conference. Unlike the year we got swept in the playoffs, I believe that's good experience. I think a decent backup big would have a lot more value than the initial value of the individual player.
Beantown
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That list of players is horrible. They don't add any wins to our team. Those minutes should go to Pleiss and Lyles....a lottery pick and a top big man from Europe. Not to a list of crappy players nobody wants.
Beantown
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HAHA, dude players like Bargagni/Frye are not going to put the Jazz on their back and lead us to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Give it a rest.
framer
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Jazz are building correctly. We don't need a gimmick like a 3 point shooting big. Anything that keeps Gobert and Favors off of the floor is detrimental to the gameplan. I read that New Orleans has Davis shooting corner 3's over the summer and I think to myself, good, that will be a playoff slot for us. Forcing Anthony Davis outside shooting threes is a win as far as I'm concerned. It isn't hard to box out Ryan Anderson.
Beantown
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Cool, I don't remember anything about you.
Who are the teams that have a good stretch big that's forcing us to have one as well? I think a lot of teams that go small-ball with a stretch 4 or a stretch big are teams that dont have a good center or PF that can do other things. They are simply playing to their strengths as we should. We have an excellent Center and PF in Favors and Gobert, we should focus around those players. Favors can "stretch"/"space" the floor just fine with his mid range jumper and his ability to slash to the rim which requires defenders to stay with him. Gobert is developing that mid range jumper that will make players step out on him but also requires attention since he rebounds so well offensively. Those two are going to beat down players on the inside if they try to go small stretch players. We also will dominate the boards giving good perimeter players lots of opportunities to score. Having great interior defenders allows our wings and pg to play very aggressive on defense on the perimeter.
Trevor Booker shot a better percentage from 3 than than Draymond Green, should we put him in as starter over Favors so he can "stretch the floor?" If GS had Favors and Gobert they would start those two and be an even better team.
Trevor Booker shot a better percentage from 3 than than Draymond Green, should we put him in as starter over Favors so he can "stretch the floor?" If GS had Favors and Gobert they would start those two and be an even better team.
Woah, hang on. I'm not talking about replacing or reducing minutes for Favors or Gobert and I'm not talking about starting anyone else. I tried to elaborate in the OP that we're not needing a stretch big because that's the trend but because it adds diversity to our team. Currently we have diverse choices of players from positions 1-3. We have Hood and Hayward who are reliable deep shooters, but we still lack outside shooting. Many people have advocated adding wings that can shoot under the belief that somehow we can add another wing and still have minutes for everyone. I've fought against this false notion. Our bigs rotation, however, has room to add players that would bring diverse skill sets. To paraphrase dala, it's not so important to go from the 5th best defense to the first as it is to go from an offense in the late 20s to one in the teens. This has nothing to do with taking minutes away from Gobert or Favors. It's taking minutes away from Pleiss and Lyles. I'm all for giving people a chance to see what they can do but we lack depth up front behind our starting lineup and if Gobert of Favors goes down with an injury this is going to be exposed. As we are still short on outside shooting, there's only one place in the roster we can add someone who could get minutes without it affecting anyone else's playing time and that's the backup big man spot (unless people really have their heart set on Pleiss and Lyles getting those minutes).
Hotdog
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Why not just have Favors develop his three point shot?
Why do we have to go over this over and over again? The 3 point shot is not that hard of a shot. Lots of big men can learn how to shoot it. We already went through this with Millsap. A lot of people said he couldn't shoot it. Then what you know, he learns how because he gets the green light.
Favors has nice touch on his jumper. We seen him make a 3 last year.
Favors is going to be our stretch 4. Watch and see. Quin will let him develop it.
I can't believe I'm the only who can see this coming.
Why do we have to go over this over and over again? The 3 point shot is not that hard of a shot. Lots of big men can learn how to shoot it. We already went through this with Millsap. A lot of people said he couldn't shoot it. Then what you know, he learns how because he gets the green light.
Favors has nice touch on his jumper. We seen him make a 3 last year.
Favors is going to be our stretch 4. Watch and see. Quin will let him develop it.
I can't believe I'm the only who can see this coming.
Hotdog
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You are seriously just describing yourself. Every time you hit someone with one of these insult blasts, it's at the worst possible time.
Beantown is spot on with this one.
You aren't very bright.
I think he has a ton of potential to hit a lot of corner threes.