Planned Parenthood Selling Baby Organs
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DutchJazzer
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TRAGEDY!
if i kill 3% of the people i meet will i still be a good person. will i still not go to jail?
saying abortion is 3% of their business is a fallacy.
**** planned parenthood and all of its supporters!
if i kill 3% of the people i meet will i still be a good person. will i still not go to jail?
saying abortion is 3% of their business is a fallacy.
**** planned parenthood and all of its supporters!
If they would have shown you the rest of the video, you'd see them spreading the brain on a cracker and feeding it to Ted Cruz.
They decided against that, as it might hurt his US Pres bid.
We've been over this, jack***. A fetus isn't identified as a person. I don't see them as people, and no government body does either.
Therefore, it's not if you kill 3% of people, you are still a good person. It's if you kill 3% of parasitic cells growing inside a person, you can still be a good person. Arguably, that could make you what we call a doctor.
Don't like it? Change the law. Can't change the law? Probably a reason for that.
So Dutch, you're in Europe. What do you think about the European laws on abortion?
Seems to me the laws in most European countries are pretty similar to the U.S. - - perhaps even less restrictive in many cases. Ironic that it's legal in Spain and Italy, two very Catholic countries. How can that be?
Seems to me the laws in most European countries are pretty similar to the U.S. - - perhaps even less restrictive in many cases. Ironic that it's legal in Spain and Italy, two very Catholic countries. How can that be?
Beantown
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Haha, holy **** how dumb are you? Have you never heard of a killer getting prosecuted for a double homicide if the women was pregnant?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act
If a killer kills the Mom and the baby it's a double homicide. If the Mom kills the baby because he/she is inconvenient then yay for her?
And yet, clear as day, abortions are legal if the mother asks for it.
Which boils down to "If the mother wants to keep this parasite, it is murder. If she does not, it's an abortion".
Get down to that, law favors the mother's choice.
Beantown
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Lot's of things that are wrong can be legal/illegal......what's your point?
Who the hell is saying "Yay" for the mother who terminates her pregnancy?
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion.
And if you provide can a link where that law was applied with a 10 week embryo, we can discuss it.
I'd be curious to see how that ruling was applied. I know it has been applied and used when a pregnancy is near term, but I've never heard of its use pre-viability.
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion.
And if you provide can a link where that law was applied with a 10 week embryo, we can discuss it.
I'd be curious to see how that ruling was applied. I know it has been applied and used when a pregnancy is near term, but I've never heard of its use pre-viability.
You see it one way, I see it another. So we need a third party to mediate; the government. No laws are forcing me to see and live it your way, no laws are forcing you to see and live it my way. The law leaves it up to citizens own conscious. What you see as wrong, and what I see as wrong are two different things, and that ruling body has decided that's the way it should be.
What I'm really saying, is just because you think it's wrong doesn't mean it is. I think ketchup on a hot dog after the age of 18 is morally wrong. So does the national hot dog council. That doesn't mean we get to force others to have that same opinion.
Beantown
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Holy **** balls stop being stupid. I am SAYING THE GOVERNMENT IS WRONG. Just like they were wrong on other major social issues in the past. Did you know slavery was legal? Did you know it was illegal for two different races to marry? Did you know it was once legal to kill a Mormon? Did you know that black and white's were legally segregated. Did you know that it's currently legal for a woman to kill her unborn child without medical reason?
Great. I'm glad you think they're wrong. They've been wrong before, and are still wrong on others. Grasp the concept of footing; the only footing you have is what you think. You'll need more to make change. Don't whine and cry about it on the internet, don't keep getting sting footage of something that sounds terrible to some(especially when records are given happily time and time again from what you see as "questionable" agencies), take it back to the courts. Right now, largely, the only people you're convincing is people that already believe something's wrong. So take it to the supreme court again... waste your money and the taxpayer dollars. We're Americans; Fantastic at wasteful spending!
Oh wait... it's been there many times, and struck down. Huh.
If you had something truly substantial(scientific method of showing me a soul exists, and exists in an unborn child) perhaps I would listen more. But if there was such evidence, It'd probably be a law too. Much like I have 0 leverage to tell you to go out and get an abortion, you have 0 leverage to lead me to tell people not to.
No **** Sherlock?
So there have been differences of opinion on various issues in the past, and there will continue to be differences of opinion in the future. Maybe the day will come at some point in the future when your viewpoint is the prevailing view, and then perhaps laws will change.
Personally I doubt the day will come during my lifetime that the rights of a 10 week embryo would supersede the rights of the woman in whose uterus it resides.
It might be more beneficial if the anti-choice crowd would direct its efforts and money to the development of an artificial uterus to preserve the lives of aborted embryos and fetuses. I guess that would be a win-win.
Then again, it's sort of ironic that many couples who undergo in vitro and are tormented by the idea that so many of their embryos will be destroyed - yet they reject donation of those embryos because they're even more tormented by the idea that there might be genetic children of theirs out in the world.
It's a bit of a conundrum, wouldn't you say?
And give up on controlling the unwashed masses of the female population? Are you sure their dictator-peen can handle such a blow?
--Really though, this is a fantastic idea, and there's plenty of $$$'s to be made. 21 weeks is the world record for premature babies @ 1 lb 6 oz. We can't be all THAT far off.
Beantown
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How about a human body with a beating heart?....And a beating heart that continues to beat even after being removed from the womb?
Is that enough science for you?....
Negatory good buddy. No higher thinking, no reactive movements, no sentience, just another parasite living off something else's otherwise healthy body. All you're left with is some day this could be a person. It doesn't mean it will be a person(anything could happen before birth), especially doesn't mean it'll be a good person(given that the mother either doesn't want the child for whatever reason).
But since we're down the science road, take it a step further. An overly cold and scientific person's interpretations;
We're already living on an overpopulated rock as it is. Why are we even discussing this?
Every month a mother has a menstrual cycle. Those are also cells that could be human. Does that mean from the age of 11 on women should be having unprotected sex to save more human life?
Beantown
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Cells and a human life form with a beating heart is not comparable. Stupid argument.
Overpopulation is not a good reason for human genocide. Stupid argument.
Calling a human a parasite makes no sense. All human life depends on other human life for survival. Stupid argument.
Do you have any argument's that make sense or aren't stupid?
Why? It started at cells that grouped together to form life. Only because you believe at that level it's something else does it make it different. I don't believe that.
It's not genocide if they're not actually recognized humans yet
We have grown human parasites every day. People that sponge off of others. People that really don't serve much purpose other than to piss me off. I'm glad you think there's a difference, that's your opinion, not mine. You've got no leverage to tell me otherwise.
So... because you say so all of these arguments are stupid. Chalk another user up in the F-town camp.
Grats.
Beantown
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Even now your whole body is a bunch of cells grouped together you dumbass. Once those cells form a body with all the extremities/brain/organ/beating heart you are a human.
Try again.