How bad is Kanter?

[Miggs]

Then why didn't the team that got to watch him play for 3 full seasons recognize his deficiencies and unload him sooner? Or do you think it's unlikely the Jazz would've gotten more in return had they not waited until the last minute?

Because Corbin sucked. It's not unreasonable for Quin to walk in, see Kanter's offensive ability, and think, with good coaching, if we can turn him into an adequate defender, we have a heck of a player. That takes some time to try and to evaluate. After a half season, it became apparent, Kanter just doesn't get it. So they traded him.

I think that's reasonable.

 

[zbone]

It's ridiculous how many problems' root cause go down to having Corbin as head coach. That's the biggest blunder of KOC/DL I can think of.

 

[My2Cents]

Not really. Koufos was a late first round pick, who has turned himself into a legitimate rotation player. Pretty decent for a player picked 23rd overall.

This. Teams are very lucky to get a rotation player at #23. I would love to have had any one of the three guys drafted right after him but that's with hindsight.

 

[My2Cents]

After the Jazz were swept by the Spurs, roughly everyone recognized that Al Jefferson and, to a lesser extent, Paul Millsap weren't going to lead the team much further. They were also entering the last season on their deals. If the plan was to tank for a star, what was DL doing in his first season as GM? What was the point in keeping Al and Paul that season? Why not start the rebuild/tank a year earlier?

Agreed. I don't know if there were any deals out there for Jefferson, but pretty sure he could have moved Millsap which would have accelerated Favor's development.

 

[zman1527]

It's ridiculous how many problems' root cause go down to having Corbin as head coach. That's the biggest blunder of KOC/DL I can think of.

He was hand chosen by Sloan-God. Jazz at that time believed anything ole Jer was saying.

 

[MDAV28]

Man I'd love to have a GM that could look into the future as well. DL needs to work on this pronto.

 

[MDAV28]

DL has done nothing. Let's forget about the Favors extension, Gobert trade, Burke trade (really proactive), GS trade, Quin Snyder acquistion, Burks extension, Hayward contract, Hood pick and maintaining flexibility to keep everybody.

 

[GVC]

Because Corbin sucked. It's not unreasonable for Quin to walk in, see Kanter's offensive ability, and think, with good coaching, if we can turn him into an adequate defender, we have a heck of a player. That takes some time to try and to evaluate. After a half season, it became apparent, Kanter just doesn't get it. So they traded him.

I think that's reasonable.

And in isolation, that's fine (I said as much in my first post in this thread). DL has made a habit of waiting things out, and only making decisions when his hand is forced, however. How many more years will it take him to build a team as good as the one he inherited (which wasn't particularly good)? How many more young/prime players will he let walk for (essentially) nothing? Now that this team is good enough to challenge for a playoff spot, and won't be drafting at the top of the draft, shouldn't DL be taking advantage of every opportunity to add talent? How's that going?

 

[zbone]

DL has done nothing. Let's forget about the Favors extension, Gobert trade, Burke trade (really proactive), GS trade, Quin Snyder acquistion, Burks extension, Hayward contract, Hood pick and maintaining flexibility to keep everybody.

You seriously can't claim trading up for Burke was a good move. It was a significant mistake.

 

[framer]

This. Teams are very lucky to get a rotation player at #23. I would love to have had any one of the three guys drafted right after him but that's with hindsight.

 

[framer]

You seriously can't claim trading up for Burke was a good move. It was a significant mistake.

Burke is a better player than both Shabazz or Deng.

 

[MDAV28]

Burke is a better player than both Shabazz or Deng.

This and also pointed it out more as a proactive move he made.