Prepare for the Worst

[richgates]

The one thing I can glean from all of the messages boards I've been reading and the sports talk radio I've been listening to, is that there are going to be unhappy Jazz fans no matter who we pick. I think there would even be people upset if we traded up and picked up Evan Turner. I have set my expectations low considering the relative weak draft position we have and how unlikely it is we'll trade up. The good news is that the Jazz FO has access to a lot more information about the players, so hopefully they will be able to make a decision that's best for the team.

I know the first round draft history has been spotty, but hopefully we'll get a solid player.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Question: Did the Jazz move up to #3 prior to the 2005 Draft? If not, were there strong indications of the Jazz moving up to #3 to draft Paul or Williams prior to the draft? Or did it come out of nowhere on draft night?

 

[cowhide]

My expectation for the 9th pick is that I hope we get a good player that can be a starter or a key player off the bench. I do not think that is too high. I understand that moving up is difficult but if it really is true that the Sixers are making the #2 pick available if we take on Brand then the Jazz should consider it. This even makes more since if Boozer walks.

Another issue I have is if the Jazz cannot move up then they should go for another mid 1st round pick, the current roster is lacking talent and there are several roster spots that need to be filled. I know I get frustrated when I see divisional teams like Portland, OKC make moves before the draft and there is not a peep coming out of SLC.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Another issue I have is if the Jazz cannot move up then they should go for another mid 1st round pick, the current roster is lacking talent and there are several roster spots that need to be filled. I know I get frustrated when I see divisional teams like Portland, OKC make moves before the draft and there is not a peep coming out of SLC.

Jazz organization believes roster spots are better filled with veterans. After all, guys like Devin Brown, Milt Palacio, etc. will ALWAYS be better than some snot-nosed kid with only a year of college under his belt.

Even when we draft in the lottery...McLeod was much, much better than that rookie named Deron. Seriously, is anybody in the late teens better than Gaines or Jeffers? Is any big better than perhaps going after Jarron to fill in until Okur returns. IMO, we should just trade all our draft picks. Just see which FA's are playing the best in the D-League. No need to spend money unless absolutely necessary.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yet another case of unrealistic expectations from several posters in this thread. How people could still believe the Jazz should be getting a superstar in this draft are living in a fantasy. The draft is a frickin' crapshoot every season, even more so this season. Look at the recent 9th picks of the draft and you'll realize superstars or even a few times all-star just don't get picked as late as 9. 2009: Demar DeRozan, 2008: DJ Augustin, 2007: Joakim Noah, 2006: Patrick O'Bryant, 2005: Ike Diogu are the lastest #9 picks. Noah is the best player out of that group and he is just a solid starter. The depth in this draft just isn't there to expect a superstar to land at 9. If we get a solid starter out of the ninth pick we should be happy, because half the teams don't even get that out of the 9th pick. I realize that's hard to accept because this Knicks pick has been anticipated for years but it's reality. Deal with it.

I think a lot of posters have realized this Cali. Which is why some of us wouldn't mind us to trade down. To me, it would be awesome if we could get two average players than one. But perhaps other teams realize this as well so that the #9 isn't all that attractive?

 

[Stifle Tower]

I think a lot of posters have realized this Cali. Which is why some of us wouldn't mind us to trade down. To me, it would be awesome if we could get two average players than one. But perhaps other teams realize this as well so that the #9 isn't all that attractive?

So in other words, we should just give up. Why is that some teams are always able to find talent in the draft, no matter the position? Sure, every team has some misses. But some are much, much better at drafting than Utah has been. If I were the Millers, every person responsible for drafting our dogs over the past 15 years would be taken out and shot. Deron/CP3...that was a no brainer. But you'd think we could have at least found 1-2 starters from all our first round picks, even if we've been drafting in the late teens/early 20's.

 

[DRIVEWAYBALL]

There doesn't appear to be a player available at #9 that would be worth his contract. Trade down. Grab a giant or two later, like the Florida State center. Eventually one of the big guys will work out if you stockpile enough of them. Or use the pick to trade for Al Jefferson. Minnesota seems intent on moving him. Okur and the nine selection for Jefferson? Sounds good to me.

 

[Kyoto]

Question: Did the Jazz move up to #3 prior to the 2005 Draft? If not, were there strong indications of the Jazz moving up to #3 to draft Paul or Williams prior to the draft? Or did it come out of nowhere on draft night?

I know there were a lot of jazz fans that were wanting it, but no word came out until draft day when it happened. I was totally expecting Williams, Paul, and Felton to be gone right before our pick.

 

[mfree]

My prediction

One third of the folks here will be outraged, one third will be thrilled, and the rest will be okay, but think KOC is a dud for not drafting their guy.

This will be the case no matter who the Jazz select.

 

[honz]

So in other words, we should just give up. Why is that some teams are always able to find talent in the draft, no matter the position? Sure, every team has some misses. But some are much, much better at drafting than Utah has been. If I were the Millers, every person responsible for drafting our dogs over the past 15 years would be taken out and shot. Deron/CP3...that was a no brainer. But you'd think we could have at least found 1-2 starters from all our first round picks, even if we've been drafting in the late teens/early 20's.

The Spurs are often acknowledged as one of the best talent evaluating front offices, right? Well, take a gander at their draft history. The worst part about it is they let Dragic, Scola, and Salmons get away after drafting them. https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/draft.html

 

[Deleted member 365]

So in other words, we should just give up. Why is that some teams are always able to find talent in the draft, no matter the position? Sure, every team has some misses. But some are much, much better at drafting than Utah has been. If I were the Millers, every person responsible for drafting our dogs over the past 15 years would be taken out and shot. Deron/CP3...that was a no brainer. But you'd think we could have at least found 1-2 starters from all our first round picks, even if we've been drafting in the late teens/early 20's.

Give up?

That's not at all what I was saying.

 

[Magic Spray]

Jazz always seem to wait till last minute to pull off a deal, whether its the draft or trade deadline. So Jazz may still have something up their sleeve tomorrow.

Like remember when they drafted Ryan Humphrey and we were all at the DeltaCenter going, "who the F is that?" And then Kevin O'Connor totally redeemed the pick by trading it for Curtis Borchardt. And everyone at the DC just started dry humping each other out of sheer joy. Or when they traded the rights to Pavel Podkolzin to Dallas for a 2005 draft pick and we were all so pissed because Pavel was going to dominate the whole planet. Turns out the 2005 draft pick was packaged to get Deron Williams, but other than that, NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.