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[Dr. Jones]

Many decades ago those in need were looked after by their neighbors, their local churches, friends, and family.
As government expanded it seems, to me, neighbors and others 'learned' to back off and let it be someone else's problem.

It's not hard to understand, really, but probably too late to return to that way of thinking.

 

[Gameface]

Many decades ago those in need were looked after by their neighbors, their local churches, friends, and family.
As government expanded it seems, to me, neighbors and others 'learned' to back off and let it be someone else's problem.

It's not hard to understand, really, but probably too late to return to that way of thinking.

That's a pretty romantic notion.

Today there are people who are helped by their neighbors, their church, etc. Decades ago there were people who suffered and were not helped by anyone.

This idea that we have lost something as a society, that we are less than we used to be, I don't think this has any basis in reality.

It seems to be something that has been an underlying theme in a lot of your recent posts. It's an idea I reject. So if it seems like it has something to do with me and you, it doesn't. It has to do with the fact that I think humanity is headed in the right direction and things are just about as good as they've ever been.

 

[Dr. Jones]

That's a pretty romantic notion.

Today there are people who are helped by their neighbors, their church, etc. Decades ago there were people who suffered and were not helped by anyone.

This idea that we have lost something as a society, that we are less than we used to be, I don't think this has any basis in reality.

It seems to be something that has been an underlying theme in a lot of your recent posts. It's an idea I reject. So if it seems like it has something to do with me and you, it doesn't. It has to do with the fact that I think humanity is headed in the right direction and things are just about as good as they've ever been.

It's true. You seem very... cynical. Don't take that wrong, it's just an observation.
What I said is true. If you would like hard data, I will provide it, even though you may be set on finding a way to refute facts for the sake of your ideals. (And I recognize I may be doing the same)

I do believe that bigger government has desensitized neighbors. I do believe I can prove the correlating data. I don't wish, however, to debate it in a negative way, for what should be obvious reasons.

 

[Gameface]

I'm cynical for thinking the present is every bit as good as the past? Okay.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I'm cynical for thinking the present is every bit as good as the past? Okay.

Sorry, bad form on my part.
I meant to say you seem generally cynical about my posts, personally.

Said even more plainly, I sense some direct personal issue with me... even though you have said that's not the case. I've sensed it for about 6 months or more. That's cool if you generally disagree with my takes or even genuinely dislike me, but I've sensed it *thick* for a long time.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

That's a pretty romantic notion.

Today there are people who are helped by their neighbors, their church, etc. Decades ago there were people who suffered and were not helped by anyone.

This idea that we have lost something as a society, that we are less than we used to be, I don't think this has any basis in reality.

It seems to be something that has been an underlying theme in a lot of your recent posts. It's an idea I reject. So if it seems like it has something to do with me and you, it doesn't. It has to do with the fact that I think humanity is headed in the right direction and things are just about as good as they've ever been.

 

[moevillini]

It's true. You seem very... cynical. Don't take that wrong, it's just an observation.
What I said is true. If you would like hard data, I will provide it, even though you may be set on finding a way to refute facts for the sake of your ideals. (And I recognize I may be doing the same)

I do believe that bigger government has desensitized neighbors. I do believe I can prove the correlating data. I don't wish, however, to debate it in a negative way, for what should be obvious reasons.

It has as much to do with the fact that we are a more mobile society and don't have the same roots and connections that we did back 100+ years ago.

And the fact that over the last 60+ years we've had automobiles and televisions, so folks tend to stay in their own private bubble and may not be as connected to their community.

 

[Dr. Jones]

It has as much to do with the fact that we are a more mobile society and don't have the same roots and connections that we did back 100+ years ago.

And the fact that over the last 60+ years we've had automobiles and televisions, so folks tend to stay in their own private bubble and may not be as connected to their community.

Yes.


Would love to share About more detailed ideals

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Ah bloody hell, maybe I have misjudged Donald Trump.

I just saw an interview of how he greatly respects and admires Muhammad Ali.

So impressive. Not even that big of a deal that The Great One's ashes will be deported.

 

[fishonjazz]

Many decades ago those in need were looked after by their neighbors, their local churches, friends, and family.
As government expanded it seems, to me, neighbors and others 'learned' to back off and let it be someone else's problem.

It's not hard to understand, really, but probably too late to return to that way of thinking.

Iawtp

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That's a pretty romantic notion.

Today there are people who are helped by their neighbors, their church, etc. Decades ago there were people who suffered and were not helped by anyone.

This idea that we have lost something as a society, that we are less than we used to be, I don't think this has any basis in reality.

It seems to be something that has been an underlying theme in a lot of your recent posts. It's an idea I reject. So if it seems like it has something to do with me and you, it doesn't. It has to do with the fact that I think humanity is headed in the right direction and things are just about as good as they've ever been.

I'd sy as bad as they have ever been tho. Glass half empty.

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[babe]

I'm cynical for thinking the present is every bit as good as the past? Okay.

too many bubbles in the brew.

Of course we're talking about people not an abstract "past" or "present". Trends with large statistical variance in the category are like slot machines. You win some, you lose some. But with a society trending away from God, I'd say you lose a lot.

However, since that's not actually the trend in America, we are winning. One of the reasons we are winning is because a majority of the immigrants, legal or illegal, don't have the sophistry to deny God. They might be running stuff or whatever, but they say their prayers at the border.

The reason it's so crucial to the left to get the Mex demonstrators out is to create a myth that will be useful in curbing Trumps innate appeal to the immigrants. Everybody loves a winner, especially a rich winner. Do you know how many thousands of Hispanics work for Trump? He might win the Hispanic vote.