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Lets put it out there ....Who thinks Hill starts over Exum,I don't

tleikheen said:
Ohhhh because he shot 31% from 3's, horrible from inside the three, didn't get hardly any assists, didn't rebound well, didn't get to the line, only shot 62% from the line, didn't get many steals or blocks, and turned it over too much so f**k winning Jazz need a better player.
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Fixed it for you.
 
They started winning because they traded Kanter and started Gobert.
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it wasn't the trade but the switch,Kanter thrived at 6th man,OKC showed that AND as already shown

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Post All-Star, @UtahJazz's NetRtg (+/- per 100 Possessions) is 18.5 PTS better w/ @daanteee ON the floor than when OFF (team-best diff.)
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I keep saying winning counts more than individual stats and for men here to trash on a 19 year olds stats as their basis for a change of direction goes against a winning formula
 
It didn't stop when Gobert was starting. The Jazz were 33-21 last year in games Gobert started.
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yet i bet your one of the ones who says Gobert regressed and is a liability on offense ,Gobert gave alot of salutes when Exum was feeding him lobs and he got alot more blocks with Exum in front of him ....both we saw less of last season
 
tleikheen said:
it wasn't the trade but the switch,Kanter thrived at 6th man,OKC showed that AND as already shown



I keep saying winning counts more than individual stats and for men here to trash on a 19 year olds stats as their basis for a change of direction goes against a winning formula
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lol

That stat doesn't mean Exum was the best player on the team. It means the Jazz were THAT much better without Trey Burke on the court.
 
tleikheen said:
yet i bet your one of the ones who says Gobert regressed and is a liability on offense ,Gobert gave alot of salutes when Exum was feeding him lobs and he got alot more blocks with Exum in front of him ....both we saw less of last season
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No, I wasn't. In fact I made a lengthy thread last season to illustrate how much better the Jazz were with Gobert vs without.

Kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth.
 
Don't get me wrong, Exum starting helped by virtue of the fact that he was not Trey Burke. But the real game changer was starting Gobert.
 
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KD's Framily said:
Injuries. The Jazz were 33-27 last year in games Gobert started.
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What was the record when both exum and Gobert started? Better than that. Gobert is a larger factor but Exum made this team better as a starter. Better than any PG the last 2 years and he was an extremely young rookie.
 
Don't get me wrong, Exum starting helped by virtue of the fact that he was not Trey Burke. But the real game changer was starting Gobert.
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this is a stupid statement ,
Exum's 6'6" frame and ultra-quick feet have already made him a nightmare matchup for opposing point guards who are used to having a much easier time getting past the perimeter.

His ability to thwart opposing offenses at the point of attack has had a clear trickle-down effect on the entire Jazz defense.
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quit making this about Trey Burke
 
tleikheen said:
I have no doubt George Hill is going to be in the guard rotation with Exum,Hood and Burks and that the Jazz will have one of the best Guard rotation in the NBA next season.Hill will eliminate playing time for Mack and Neto and be similar to Alec Burks in playing time.Some games Hill/Burks close out games if Exum/Hood struggle.I just don't see the Jazz pairing up Hood with Hill if the Jazz view Exum/Hood as their backcourt.Separating them is going to make them better? For now and the future?
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I think the Jazz will ship one of these guards/wings out. They have too many of them and one would want the players to get along and, for that to happen, everybody has to be somewhat content with their own playing time.

Hill is coming in to (probably) be the starting PG and Exum is the PG of the future. Hayward is the face of the franchise, so he stays also. Hood showed much promised and actually shared the scoring load with Hayward last season, but he is somewhat similar to Hayward in some ways. Burks, too, showed promise two seasons ago, but his development has been slowed by injuries and he seems - unfortunately - to be injury-prone. Neto and Mack are little impact players. They could be in, they could be out; it doesn't really matter. I think some decision will be made regarding either Hood or Burks; one of them will be shipped out before the next trade deadline, perhaps even before the start of the season. Personally, I would ship Burks out while there is still hope around the league about his eventual development into a quasi all-star.
 
ghsartin said:
Personally, I would ship Burks out while there is still hope around the league about his eventual development into a quasi all-star.
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Thanks -- an interesting angle on this issue.

My opinion is that if you ship Burks now you may be "selling low" due to injury concerns.
 
MVP said:
No way Exum starts.He was just cleared for contact. It will take at least 6 month before he has no psychologic and physical limitations due to his knee. So if he starts it will be around All star break.
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Psychological limitations? The guy was more disturbed on court then Brandon Rush. Them saying Exum is clear future are up in the night! Jazz just traded for one of the better guards in the league. No way Exum sees more then 20 minutes a night with Neto an Mack on board. Trey is a goner.
 
No way Exum starts.He was just cleared for contact. It will take at least 6 month before he has no psychologic and physical limitations due to his knee. So if he starts it will be around All star break.
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Either ignorance or hater ,but I can see the followers ......
Here's a comparison with fellow draftee Jabari Parker : Jabari tore is ACL on (12-15-14) and 11 months and 3 weeks later(11-4-15) Jabari is making his debut. on Feb.29,14 1/2 months later Jabari is scoringa career high 36 points.
Dante tore is ACL on (8-4-15),surgery (9-3-15).The start of the 2016-2017 it will be 15 full months since his surgery.
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So if his leg is good and he's in 5 on 5's and he has team mates summering in Utah and he plays with them and against them ,why is he any different than Jabari in thinking he can still play ball.
 
If Dante is healthy he needs to start, period. We are heavily invested in his future and this teams future. Unless Hill is bringing us titles we would be wasting our time starting him.
 
SCS said:
If Dante is healthy he needs to start, period. We are heavily invested in his future and this teams future. Unless Hill is bringing us titles we would be wasting our time starting him.
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If one believes in Dante, I don't think you are wrong, but...

I think the Jazz may be treating getting to the playoffs this year as their "title" at least just for this upcoming season. IOW, they get to the playoffs this year or heads roll. That's just the feeling I get.
 
How would a Hill-Exum-Hood-Hayward-Favors small ball lineup do? No one is playing noticeably out of position except for Hayward. Has he played the 4 before and if so, do we have his stats there?
 
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