WIll a jazz player get into the all star game?
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Great first post as well.
DutchJazzer
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it prolly does seeiing as wild card is in play
DutchJazzer
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all stars starters for the west ANOUNCED
Stephen Curry, Warriors
Anthony Davis, Pelicans
Kevin Durant, Warriors
James Harden, Rockets
Kawhi Leonard, Spurs
so will this improve the changes GOOOOOBERT and Hayward have?
Stephen Curry, Warriors
Anthony Davis, Pelicans
Kevin Durant, Warriors
James Harden, Rockets
Kawhi Leonard, Spurs
so will this improve the changes GOOOOOBERT and Hayward have?
No Cousins will make it and they wont take 3 centers, Hayward hopefully though.
DutchJazzer
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anthony davis and cousins get in. 2 centers of a losing team. that means Gobert get snuffed?
yeah way to reward losing
I don't like it either and hope I'm wrong obviously.
DutchJazzer
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actually i am conflicted sure gobert deserves it. but if he get snuffed he might go on a TEAR and hold opposing teams to 50 points per game all by himself. and of course he could use a vacation he has not missed 1 game so far
https://insider.espn.com/nba/inside...r-reserves-russell-westbrook-paul-george-more
Kevin Pelton wrote an article about who should be the all-star reserves after the starters were announced. He has Gobert getting in as the second of three front-court players (behind Draymond but above Cousins) and has Hayward getting in on the very last wild card spot (over Klay).
Here is what he had to say about Gobert:
It's interesting that Jazz fans seem to have focused their campaigning on Gordon Hayward for an All-Star spot ahead of Gobert. That's understandable given Hayward's seniority and possibly pragmatic, given he'll be an unrestricted free agent next summer, while Gobert just signed a four-year extension. But I wouldn't agree.
Gobert fares better by most value stats -- he's got 8.2 WARP to Hayward's 6.2 and 6.5 RPM wins to Hayward's 4.6. And Utah has played better with just Gobert on the court (plus-6.1 points per 100 possessions) than just Hayward (minus-2.4).
Gobert is the leader at the turn for Defensive Player of the Year and has developed into an elite finisher who's shooting 66.2 percent from the field. He's been the best center in the league in my book and is a deserving All-Star.
Here is what he had to say about Hayward:
The last spot on my 12-man roster came down to Hayward vs. Klay Thompson of the Golden State Warriors, two players in very different roles.
While Thompson has been content to feast on the shots set up by his three All-Star teammates this season (85.8 percent of his field goals have been assisted, per Basketball-Reference.com, second to J.J. Redick among players in the top 100), Hayward has carried an injury-riddled Jazz team (just 51.6 percent of his field goals have been assisted).
In that context, the fact that Hayward has actually been more efficient (.605 true shooting percentage) than Thompson (.584) is remarkable. Thompson's pedestrian value stats (1.8 WARP, 1.4 RPM) surely understate his value as an individual defender and floor spacer, but there's no way they understate it enough to make up the gap with Hayward.
Pelton has Paul getting in and said it's better to vote him in and replace him then to leave him out entirely.
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Kevin Pelton wrote an article about who should be the all-star reserves after the starters were announced. He has Gobert getting in as the second of three front-court players (behind Draymond but above Cousins) and has Hayward getting in on the very last wild card spot (over Klay).
Here is what he had to say about Gobert:
It's interesting that Jazz fans seem to have focused their campaigning on Gordon Hayward for an All-Star spot ahead of Gobert. That's understandable given Hayward's seniority and possibly pragmatic, given he'll be an unrestricted free agent next summer, while Gobert just signed a four-year extension. But I wouldn't agree.
Gobert fares better by most value stats -- he's got 8.2 WARP to Hayward's 6.2 and 6.5 RPM wins to Hayward's 4.6. And Utah has played better with just Gobert on the court (plus-6.1 points per 100 possessions) than just Hayward (minus-2.4).
Gobert is the leader at the turn for Defensive Player of the Year and has developed into an elite finisher who's shooting 66.2 percent from the field. He's been the best center in the league in my book and is a deserving All-Star.
Here is what he had to say about Hayward:
The last spot on my 12-man roster came down to Hayward vs. Klay Thompson of the Golden State Warriors, two players in very different roles.
While Thompson has been content to feast on the shots set up by his three All-Star teammates this season (85.8 percent of his field goals have been assisted, per Basketball-Reference.com, second to J.J. Redick among players in the top 100), Hayward has carried an injury-riddled Jazz team (just 51.6 percent of his field goals have been assisted).
In that context, the fact that Hayward has actually been more efficient (.605 true shooting percentage) than Thompson (.584) is remarkable. Thompson's pedestrian value stats (1.8 WARP, 1.4 RPM) surely understate his value as an individual defender and floor spacer, but there's no way they understate it enough to make up the gap with Hayward.
Pelton has Paul getting in and said it's better to vote him in and replace him then to leave him out entirely.
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NAOS
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agree. That's why I've been pretty quiet about this all-star stuff. Hayward is getting the nod for political and sentimental reasons. Gobert is the bigger difference maker; and in a world where all-star appearances reflected merit, Gobert is clearly our top guy.