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Following potential 2017 draftees...

PGAB, i love that you're posting in this thread. If you do leave JF, don't leave this thread. I don't always agree with you and similar to others i think you overrate prospects in general, but i go out of my way- even risk getting sent to the doghouse by the missus- to watch guys you point out on here. You are sort of my personal college bball viewing guide.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
PGAB, i love that you're posting in this thread. If you do leave JF, don't leave this thread. I don't always agree with you and similar to others i think you overrate prospects in general, but i go out of my way- even risk getting sent to the doghouse by the missus- to watch guys you point out on here. You are sort of my personal college bball viewing guide.
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Even tho its way too early to call, last year was an off year for me, even tho I'm rather convinced I had several things right and spotted a lottery worthy gem in Ivica Zubac way ahead of time -- Looking back thats who I'd have liked Utah to take 12th... I pointed out Malachai Richardson WAY, way before DX gave him any credit to possibly be in the 1st rd range similar to Zach LaVine...

My accuracy on the 4* prospects I point out ahead of time as future pro's like D'Angelo Russell, Robert Williams, De'Aaron Fox, Miles Bridges, Jonathan Isaac, Lauri Markkanen, Zion Williamson, Khavon Moore, Justin Jackson (MD) has been inordinately high.. I'm often not graded on such things around here - I was blowing the whistle that Markelle Fultz was underrated over a year ago when he was ranked in the 20's when PKM was saying the UK staff prefers Rawle Alkins.. that sorta stuff often flies over the heads of anyone who finds themselves on the opposite side of a debate with me here.. those are heavily weighted feathers in my cap as far as I'm concerned.

I wouldn't want to end it on a down note, I certainly learned way more lessons than I was anticipating in 2016, I've never claimed to be an expert or infallible I've called this an inexact science many times.. my approach is always that I'm learning...

Sucks to see people talking up Briscoe too when I get a moment to check in. Andrew Jones on Texas is miles better, really shifty and strong with a better shot and a way better finisher at the rim... Donovann Mitchell and Bruce Brown are also similarly miles better than Briscoe.

If that reported Suns-Kings deal goes thru with Cousins/Len+Warren I may just choose one of those teams and bail to their forums before the draft. For now I'll chime in here, not gonna find a new bandwagon til at least the lottery hits.
 
PG_AB said:
because being built like a bumper car as he is he seeks contact, it's also a formation of him at times being a ballhog/suffers from tunnel-vision..

Once he gets near the rim he stays there for rebounds that simply wont be available for him in the NBA.

3-star recruit De'Anthony Melton is such a better athlete, I swear thats the dude to take if you like Briscoe. He held Lonzo Ball to 4 assists and 7 turnovers in USC's upset win. I pointed him out here months ago and he continues to climb DX's mock with every update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cbSDkMNUo
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He looks interesting. I don't think he'll enter the draft though unless he generates mad hype. Looks like a guy for next year's draft and probably higher than 25-30 range I was discussing before if he continues to strengthen his late bloomer status.
 
BTP said:
He looks interesting. I don't think he'll enter the draft though unless he generates mad hype. Looks like a guy for next year's draft and probably higher than 25-30 range I was discussing before if he continues to strengthen his late bloomer status.
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USC has several prospects that are a crapshoot to declare for this draft. Elijah Stewart, Chemizie Metu, Melton and Bennie Boatright -- even McLaughlinn could test the waters. They have a sneaky good class with some possible NBA talent on the way next year too.
 
PG_AB said:
USC has several prospects that are a crapshoot to declare for this draft. Elijah Stewart, Chemizie Metu, Melton and Bennie Boatright -- even McLaughlinn could test the waters. They have a sneaky good class with some possible NBA talent on the way next year too.
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What are the odds that he actually declares/someone is already really interested in him? If you're under the radar your whole high school career to the degree that few NBA scouts even know your name and show nice flashes your rookie year within a limited role. Is he really going to get that first round promise that he should seek when he goes through the process.
 
BTP said:
What are the odds that he actually declares/someone is already really interested in him? If you're under the radar your whole high school career to the degree that few NBA scouts even know your name and show nice flashes your rookie year within a limited role. Is he really going to get that first round promise that he should seek when he goes through the process.
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He's one of the premier defensive guards in this draft pool as far as I'm concerned.. His statline last night in victory vs Markelle Fultz and UW -- 16 7rebs, 6ast, 6 stl and 2 blks 1 turnover..

With the new rules it would be odd if he didn't test the waters.

He's like a much more legit (CG) version of Michael Qualls who went undrafted a few years ago after an unfortunately timed ACL tear.
 
In this weeks latest Kansas basketball police blotter - Josh Jackson and LaGerald Vick are people of interest in a vandalism investigation.

word is this stems from the crazy chick involved with the initial Carlton Bragg suspension (not to be confused with his current indefinite suspension)

Between this latest incident and Vick allegedly hitting a female student, it's safe to say we won't be hearing his name in the 2017 draft.
 
PG_AB said:
He's one of the premier defensive guards in this draft pool as far as I'm concerned.. His statline last night in victory vs Markelle Fultz and UW -- 16 7rebs, 6ast, 6 stl and 2 blks 1 turnover..

With the new rules it would be odd if he didn't test the waters.

He's like a much more legit (CG) version of Michael Qualls who went undrafted a few years ago after an unfortunately timed ACL tear.
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That's a good point.
I'm just not sure it's safe to assume that he'll stay in the draft. When you look through his game logs, you see a very inconsistent performance/role. Just because you're extra motivated to take on the #1 and 2 PGs within a week and are extra competitive in those situations, what happened in the games where he was less aggressive offensively?
Those are questions that scouts will have to discuss and interviews at the combine will give them a clearer picture who he is.
He's got a lot of things going for him like exceeding expectations out of nowhere. But at the same time if you have less sample size that can also come to bite you in the *** when your sample includes a lot of less productive stretches.
But I'm with you that he totally should stay in the draft if he getts a first round promise and it's possible.
 
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