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2016-17 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD

Haha.. Spurs beating Harden at his own game, giving him the 3pt shot without fouling... he's air balling them right now.



LOLOLOLOL ...
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
lmao wut?

We want to act like Exum is possibly better than mack and neto but we saying Danny Green sucks?
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Fixed.

Green is shooting horrible from the field (worse than burks this year which was burks career low) never ever ever gets to the line, is not a playmaker, doesn't rebound, is an ok shooter and ok defender.
His contract isn't horrible though (10 million per year for a few more years) and he isn't too old (29) so we could do worse I guess.

I will pass though. Agree to disagree on this one.
 
If Danny Green is an OK defender, the DPOY candidates are no better than slightly above average
 
Gobert and Draymond are 1 and 2 in Defensive rating and DRPM. Danny Green is tied for 12th in def rating, and outside of the top 40 in DRPM. Looking at his advanced stats, like st%, blk%, opp fg%, etc, Danny Green seems like a very good defender, but I wouldn't say elite.
 
Siro said:
Gobert and Draymond are 1 and 2 in Defensive rating and DRPM. Danny Green is tied for 12th in def rating, and outside of the top 40 in DRPM. Looking at his advanced stats, like st%, blk%, opp fg%, etc, Danny Green seems like a very good defender, but I wouldn't say elite.
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Eyetest, drop stats. Danny Green absolutely plays defense at a level, where he's got hyper awareness and really good instincts/decision making.
 
Siro said:
Gobert and Draymond are 1 and 2 in Defensive rating and DRPM. Danny Green is tied for 12th in def rating, and outside of the top 40 in DRPM. Looking at his advanced stats, like st%, blk%, opp fg%, etc, Danny Green seems like a very good defender, but I wouldn't say elite.
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I would say good to very good is fair... elite is.. laughable.
 
Like when I think 'elite' I think you're top 10 in the league at that particular skill set or ability.



Not sure Danny Green is a top 10 defender in the league, stat wise or eye test wise.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Like when I think 'elite' I think you're top 10 in the league at that particular skill set or ability.



Not sure Danny Green is a top 10 defender in the league, stat wise or eye test wise.
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So Gordon Hayward is not an elite scorer?
 
BTP said:
So Gordon Hayward is not an elite scorer?
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I dunno I need to look at this year's stats. I wouldn't say he was in the past, no.


I would say he's an elite all round player. He scores. He shoot 3's. He rebounds. He passes.


I would say he's an elite all rounder in this league, for sure, yes.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I dunno I need to look at this year's stat. I would say he's an elite all round player. He scores. He shoot 3's. He rebounds. He passes.


I would say he's an elite all rounder in this league, for sure, yes.
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Elite allround players:
LeBron, Durant, Giannis, Butler, Cp3, Davis, Kawhi, Curry, Wall, Towns, Lowry, Gasol
12 better allround players => Gordon not elite allround, sry.
 
BTP said:
Elite allround players:
LeBron, Durant, Giannis, Butler, Cp3, Davis, Kawhi, Curry, Wall, Towns, Lowry, Gasol
12 better allround players => Gordon not elite allround, sry.
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Curry doesn't defend. Wall not sure about his shooting. Towns - is he a passer/playmaker? Lowry not sure he defends all that well.


I would actually put Hayward and PG13 above Wall, Towns, Lowry and Gasol. My list would be:

LeBron
Kawhi
Durant
Giannis
Butler
CP3
Davis
Hayward
George
 
ONE LOVE said:
Curry doesn't defend. Wall not sure about his shooting. Towns - is he a passer/playmaker? Lowry not sure he defends all that well.


I would actually put Hayward and PG13 above Wall, Towns, Lowry and Gasol. My list would be:

LeBron
Kawhi
Durant
Giannis
Butler
CP3
Davis
Hayward
George
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Curry does defend. He's, at the very least, an average defender.
 
Lowry is an elite defensive player when healthy. Like truly mean elite. Curry is an ok defender, but next level playmaker and shooter. Wall plays hard defense, is great at the rim and a really good passer. Towns can do it all and midway through the season he rediscovered his defense again. Add Mike Conley who's better at Gordon at basically every facet of the game, except length.

Your arbitrary cutoffs are laughable in this instance. Even if you eliminate 4 and add George and Conley, there's still 10 already there with Gasol, who's absolutely a beast allround player.
 
BTP said:
Lowry is an elite defensive player when healthy. Like truly mean elite. Curry is an ok defender, but next level playmaker and shooter. Wall plays hard defense, is great at the rim and a really good passer. Towns can do it all and midway through the season he rediscovered his defense again. Add Mike Conley who's better at Gordon at basically every facet of the game, except length.

Your arbitrary cutoffs are laughable in this instance. Even if you eliminate 4 and add George and Conley, there's still 10 already there with Gasol, who's absolutely a beast allround player.
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Well, top 10-15, whatever. I still don't think 'Danny Green' is top 15 defender in the league. Sorry.
 
Here's 15 players who I think are better defenders than 'Danny Green':


LeBron
Kawhi
Davis
Gobert
Draymond
Ariza
Beverley
Wall
CP3
Mike Conley
Tony Allen
DeAndre
MKG
Ibaka
Karl Towns
Wiggins
Jimmy Butler
Gordon Hayward
Paul George
DeMarre Caroll
PJ Tucker
Greek Freak
Favors
Jae Crowder
Justise Winslow
Wesley Matthews
Paul Millsap
Marcus Smart
Covington


OOps... got carried away. Got 30 players who I think are better defenders than 'Danny Green'. Take away all the big guys and you'd still have 20+


Sorry, still don't think he's 'elite'. Very good/good defender, yes, elite? No.
 
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