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Danny G is an elite defender (for his position at least, if we only wanted the best defenders in the NBA we'd have basically only big men).

Guards who are better defensively than Green: CP3 and Tony Allen, and Beverley has a case. Nobody else.
 
Eminence said:
Danny G is an elite defender (for his position at least, if we only wanted the best defenders in the NBA we'd have basically only big men).

Guards who are better defensively than Green: CP3 and Tony Allen, and Beverley has a case. Nobody else.
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It's weird that he doesn't make any all nba defensive teams and defensive advanced stats/metrics aren't at the top of the league.
 
I'm not gonna debate who's elite and who's not but Pop doesn't strike me as the type to play a guy that doesn't play D.
 
RJF said:
I'm not gonna debate who's elite and who's not but Pop doesn't strike me as the type to play a guy that doesn't play D.
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He definitely plays D. We are all in agreement on that.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I've just listed a group of 30 players who I would take as elite defenders, sorry Danny Green is not part of that group. We can make that group bigger, like 50 or 100 players, but then that group is no longer 'elite' IMO.
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but that's your definition of elite. There are many guys I would take off your list and put Danny G instead

Matthews (maybe 4 years ago?)
Wiggins
Pj Tucker
Favors (not this year unfortunately)
Winslow
Whiteside
Batum
Porter

But point taken, he may not be elite but he is a very very good defender who can guard multiple positions

At the end of the day there is a lot of subjectivity with some statistics to back it up (not as great for defense as for offense)
 
latin jazz said:
we really disagree on this one

yeah, he can't create his own shot but he has high IQ and a good defender. Good 3 point shooter with a quick release. Great as a complimentary player
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I agree with this though on the jazz ingles, JJ, and hill are all quite a bit better 3 point shooters % wise and Hayward is better as well and hood is about the same.

Basically what I should have said instead of saying he sucks is that I wouldn't want him on the jazz with our current roster unless he was ok being the 5th wing competing with exum and burks for scraps.
Ingles is younger, cheaper, better passer, better shooter, and a very good defender (though green must be better at defense after reading all these posts) and great glue chemistry guy. I don't want green taking ingles minutes.
Hayward is miles better. Don't want him taking his minutes.
JJ is more versatile offensively, is a better playmaker, a better shooter, a better rebounder, more clutch and has almost single handedly won a bunch of games for us this year. Don't want green taking joe Jesus minutes.
Hood is younger, cheaper, about the same good shooter (though I think he will be better very soon), more versatile offensively, gets to the line more (everyone gets to the line more than green), and is a better handler. I would like the jazz to keep developing hood. He is only 24 and in his third season. Don't want green taking his minutes.

Then you have exum spending some time at the wing and I don't really want him to lose the few minutes he gets. I feel it's important to develop him with a little bit of court time at least.

Then you have burks who I adore.

I would pass on green. We got plenty of good wings imo.
 
fishonjazz said:
It's weird that he doesn't make any all nba defensive teams and defensive advanced stats/metrics aren't at the top of the league.
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He's been top 2 with the Grindfather for SG defensive impact(+/-, drapm, drpm type stats) over the last 5 years or so.
 
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