Patrick Beverley Available

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Also isn't it possible that having hill at 20 million vs having Beverly at 6 or whatever would have an impact on us resigning players? (Exum, favs, hood, etc)

Like maybe the owners are willing to pay a certain amount in luxury tax penalties and George hill money takes us over the amount they are willing to spend but Beverly money doesnt.

Maybe... but then of what use is Beverley when Hayward bolts when he sees you can't give him a PG of consequence.

 

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What if hayward thinks that Beverly being on the team is better than just X mack and neto and that makes him stay though?

Like maybe Hayward isnt just "hill stays, and if not I'm gone"
Maybe hayward is like "we were really good last season and hill barely played.... if we have Beverly actually on the court rather than injured then we will be better than last year."

We just don't know so if there is a good player to be had for cheap then grab that mother ****er

It's not about Hill specifically... it's about having good point guard play. Beverley is not a PG for all intents and purposes. He's an off-ball guard.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I guess if I had to summarize my feelings on this, I'd say this is my preference:

1. Keep Hill on team-friendly contract
2. Trade for Bledsoe/Dragic/Rubio(don't like the Rubio fit).
3. Trade for Beverley/Lin/etc.
4. Go with Exum starting at PG next year...

I think 1 and 2 give you good shot at Hayward. I think 3 is better than 4, but I don't think it's close to enough to make Hayward think this is going in a good direction. 4 - forget about it.

I think the cost to do 2 is prohibitive and that if we do #1 then we have more uncertainty/risk. If you get Beverly you could start him at 2 or bring him off the bench as a combo.

You could also re-sign Hill and then just straight flip Beverly. Say Toronto loses Lowry... they may need a low cost option... Philly may look for someone to help the young guys... there would be options and his contract is super easy to move.

Price has to be right of course.

 

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Maybe... but then of what use is Beverley when Hayward bolts when he sees you can't give him a PG of consequence.

Or we win 60 games and get to the western conference finals, hayward loves it here and so does his family, he loves the coach and management and fans etc.
Who knows what can or will happen.

If there is a good player on a cheap contract that can be had for cheap then I think you just do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I guess if I had to summarize my feelings on this, I'd say this is my preference:

1. Keep Hill on team-friendly contract
2. Trade for Bledsoe/Dragic/Rubio(don't like the Rubio fit).
3. Trade for Beverley/Lin/etc.
4. Go with Exum starting at PG next year...

I think 1 and 2 give you good shot at Hayward. I think 3 is better than 4, but I don't think it's close to enough to make Hayward think this is going in a good direction. 4 - forget about it.

Also if you do #2 then #1 isn't an option... if we did Beverly then Hill is very much in play.

 

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I think the cost to do 2 is prohibitive and that if we do #1 then we have more uncertainty/risk. If you get Beverly you could start him at 2 or bring him off the bench as a combo.

You could also re-sign Hill and then just straight flip Beverly. Say Toronto loses Lowry... they may need a low cost option... Philly may look for someone to help the young guys... there would be options and his contract is super easy to move.

Price has to be right of course.

I don't think the cost is prohibitive, especially for Bledsoe(if PHX gets a PG in the draft) and Rubio(MIN has been trying to dump him for any sort of value for ages, they almost traded him for expiring DRose FFS).

 

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Also if you do #2 then #1 isn't an option... if we did Beverly then Hill is very much in play.

Yeah, I think 2 should go into effect immediately if they think Hill is seeking a contract we wouldn't be willing to give him(they should know that because they were in negotiations with him just 3 months ago).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, I think 2 should go into effect immediately if they think Hill is seeking a contract we wouldn't be willing to give him(they should know that because they were in negotiations with him just 3 months ago).

The landscape has changed significantly is Hill aware enough to take a lower contract than was offered.

 

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The landscape has changed significantly is Hill aware enough to take a lower contract than was offered.

I don't know. But we cannot really afford to fool around with it.

 

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I'm just not sure this ever happens. Maybe they do... I don't know. I've never been given the impression that they will do it.

Let's hope Hayward feels differently than you do. Because if he doesn't, then his bags are definitely packed.

 

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I don't think the cost is prohibitive, especially for Bledsoe(if PHX gets a PG in the draft) and Rubio(MIN has been trying to dump him for any sort of value for ages, they almost traded him for expiring DRose FFS).

Rubio isn't as good of a fit and makes way more. Bledsoe likely costs favs and a pick plus more. I also don't think they take a PG... They get Jackson or Tatum.

 

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I don't like any of the PG possibilities if Hill leaves. Beverly would be as good as any starting. I like him best backing up Hill, especially if Hill misses some games. It's a win-win regardless of how it turns out.