elan_prodigy
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I hope he ends up in Houston. Really think he could succeed in that offense
General NBA Craziness and How it Applies to Utah
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I hope he ends up in Houston. Really think he could succeed in that offense
OK here's me combining rumors and piecing together a Jazz team:
1. According to rumors Jazz are interested in Patrick Beverley
2. According to rumors ATL is looking for S&T deal for Paul Millsap
Trade 1:
UTA gets Patrick Beverley
HOU gets worse of OKC/UTA 2018 1st round pick(because they want to save capspace this yer)
Trade 2:
UTA gets Paul Millsap(S&T)
ATL gets Derrick Favors + Alec Burks
We give up on bringing Hill back, but we shore up the PF position. For the record I hate this deal(because I don't envy the team that will give Millsap his next contract) but I can absolutely see the Jazz doing something like this.
Resulting team:
PG: Patrick Beverley, Dante Exum, Raul Neto
SG: Rodney Hood, Joe Ingles, draft pick
SF: Gordon Hayward, Joe Jesus, draft pick
PF: Paul Millsap, Trey Lyles, draft pick
C: Rudy Gobert, draft pick, Joel Bolomboy
You can substitute some of the draft picks with a MLE or BAE level FA.
Thoughts? Do you think this is enough to get Hayward to stay?
1. According to rumors Jazz are interested in Patrick Beverley
2. According to rumors ATL is looking for S&T deal for Paul Millsap
Trade 1:
UTA gets Patrick Beverley
HOU gets worse of OKC/UTA 2018 1st round pick(because they want to save capspace this yer)
Trade 2:
UTA gets Paul Millsap(S&T)
ATL gets Derrick Favors + Alec Burks
We give up on bringing Hill back, but we shore up the PF position. For the record I hate this deal(because I don't envy the team that will give Millsap his next contract) but I can absolutely see the Jazz doing something like this.
Resulting team:
PG: Patrick Beverley, Dante Exum, Raul Neto
SG: Rodney Hood, Joe Ingles, draft pick
SF: Gordon Hayward, Joe Jesus, draft pick
PF: Paul Millsap, Trey Lyles, draft pick
C: Rudy Gobert, draft pick, Joel Bolomboy
You can substitute some of the draft picks with a MLE or BAE level FA.
Thoughts? Do you think this is enough to get Hayward to stay?
Nah... Houston seems like a team that will try to break him.
Seems to me like this is more of a lateral move rather than an upward move... Hill is still a better player than Beverley overall IMO.
Also Millsap declining and Favors hitting his prime... that's a toss up.
For the record, I don't like this situation at all. I much prefer our current roster with Hill and healthy Favors.
The thing I'm realizing is just how crippling the fear of losing Hayward is. I'm thinking about all sorts of stupid moves that would make Hayward want to stay more but will screw us long-term. If Hayward wanted to sign almost... regardless of what we do, I kind of like our pieces. It's when I try to bring in win-now pieces that I start cringing when faced with the possibilities.
The thing I'm realizing is just how crippling the fear of losing Hayward is. I'm thinking about all sorts of stupid moves that would make Hayward want to stay more but will screw us long-term. If Hayward wanted to sign almost... regardless of what we do, I kind of like our pieces. It's when I try to bring in win-now pieces that I start cringing when faced with the possibilities.
I don't think we need to panic to make Hayward stays. He's smart enough to see that if we're desperate and running around like headless chicken he just won't have a bar of it and bolt.
We need to be methodical and measured like the Spurs, and if he signs, great. But if he doesn't, we carry on with the guys who want to stay and play for us. Also we're starting to become a FA destination now as guys are starting to see the value we have in a stable FO with Lindsey and a top 10 coach in Quin.
It's like when you're trying to win a girl's heart - if you act desperate they can sense it a mile away. You need to play it cool and you'll get the rewards.
Cappy_Smurf
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You can't really bring this up and not mention Rudy. IF Utah is more of an FA draw than they used to be, it has more to do with winning, and Rudy was the key to changing that in Utah.
Cappy_Smurf
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I was sick about the idea of Hillward leaving at first, but now I almost wouldn't mind seeing how the team grows in a different direction. I'm actually fine with however things work out from here, good or bad. Maybe that's because I'm a huge believer in Rudy as the key to our success. Then again, maybe I'm just naïve.
And yeah, I think Millsap would help convince Hayward. I think Beverly is just good enough not to make him question the PG position too much. I really hope we could draft Derrick White if this happened.
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I wouldn't want to max Sap. I'm not sure how high I would go on him.
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