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a trade thread: Orlando and Indy speculations

NAOS

NAOS

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Given the circumstances, I thought this thread might be worthwhile. Orlando and Indy seem to be very good trading partners. It's not a stretch to say Indy wants Al or Paul, and that Orlando wants our good contracts, namely Okur and CJ.

What would trades would you consider?

(please, restrain yourself a little with the Granger talk; Indy has other players).
 
CJ Miles and a future 2nd rounder for Dwight Howard....

Indy doesn't have much that I'd want. Maybe Paul George or something....

Hibbert is soft and stiff. The rest of their bigmen are either stiff or just hustle guys (which we already have Millsap and Evans for). And their wings aren't very good.
 
The Thriller said:
CJ Miles and a future 2nd rounder for Dwight Howard....

Indy doesn't have much that I'd want. Maybe Paul George or something....

Hibbert is soft and stiff. The rest of their bigmen are either stiff or just hustle guys (which we already have Millsap and Evans for). And their wings aren't very good.
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I've seen enough PGeorge this year to guarantee that you want him. He's a much better defender than anybody thought he'd be at this point, and his offense will get there (including his 3-pnt shot). I think he can guard 1-3.
 
Jazz should be careful not to become Indy. A nice group of guys who show flashes of talent but never quite put it together. Indy has about 10 players that would be considered nice trade pices but no-one to lead and carry them.
 
I don't know how much I want anybody on both of thoses teams. I wanted Gortat, but thats too late. And I use to want Granger, but not so much anymore. I hope Utah pawns off Bell, doesn't resign Ak, trade Memo for cap space and a draft pick.
 
Indiana wont give up Paul George. I'm pretty sure they consider him to be the biggest key of their future. Maybe they would part ways with Granger. And their is nothing I want on Orlando.
 
Millsap next to Dwight is a perfect tandem, but I don't know who I'd really want of theirs besides Dwight. Ryan Anderson is kind of interesting but after that it's a bunch of overpaid aging turds.
 
I guess Reddick although I think people here tend to be a little too high on the guy. I don't know that getting Ryan Anderson and Reddick for Millsap makes us any better in a best-case scenario.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I guess Reddick although I think people here tend to be a little too high on the guy. I don't know that getting Ryan Anderson and Reddick for Millsap makes us any better in a best-case scenario.
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Millsaps better. And why would we want to take on, 2 semi-used rotation players, for a starting PF.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I guess Reddick although I think people here tend to be a little too high on the guy. I don't know that getting Ryan Anderson and Reddick for Millsap makes us any better in a best-case scenario.
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What if we could trade CJ + Memo's expiring for Redick and Bass or Anderson? Interested? I realize that these two guys would be bench material, but we need that. I'm not a Redick homer, but we are pretty hardup for shooters. This scenario gets a bit more likely if Orlando goes into implode-mode.
 
Jazzfanz said:
Millsaps better. And why would we want to take on, 2 semi-used rotation players, for a starting PF.
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In case that question isn't rhetorical, I don't think it's a good trade. That's exactly what I'm saying.

CJ and Memo only have value for them if they're blowing it up, at which point Anderson becomes a guy they are almost certain to keep and probably Reddick too. They'd want the same pieces the Jazz did at that point (young guys on cheap or affordable deals).
 
NUMBERICA said:
I guess Reddick although I think people here tend to be a little too high on the guy. I don't know that getting Ryan Anderson and Reddick for Millsap makes us any better in a best-case scenario.
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Reddick's contract is ugly relative to his contribution level. $12.5 million over the next two seasons for a specialist is a tough pill to swallow.

All the talk about Paul George makes me think Brandon Rush would actually be available and he's got a skillset the Jazz could use (perimeter defense and three point shooting). Dahntay Jones has also proven to be useful in the right situation.

No one on Orlando's roster gets me excited. Maybe Daniel Orton on a spec deal if we basically get him for free. But nothing other than that.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Reddick's contract is ugly relative to his contribution level. $12.5 million over the next two seasons for a specialist is a tough pill to swallow.

All the talk about Paul George makes me think Brandon Rush would actually be available and he's got a skillset the Jazz could use (perimeter defense and three point shooting). Dahntay Jones has also proven to be useful in the right situation.

No one on Orlando's roster gets me excited. Maybe Daniel Orton on a spec deal if we basically get him for free. But nothing other than that.
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I'm not in love with Ryan Andersen, but you don't like him at all? And co-sign on the interest in Rush. Not much else on the Pacers (that might be available) that I'd like.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'm not in love with Ryan Andersen, but you don't like him at all? And co-sign on the interest in Rush. Not much else on the Pacers (that might be available) that I'd like.
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I don't believe he'd be available given his production and contract and as a result isn't worth talking about. Same reason I'm not mentioning Dwight Howard or Roy Hibbert.

Anderson is what Troy Murphy was a few years ago. Virtually identical skill sets.
 
Sirkickyass said:
I don't believe he'd be available given his production and contract and as a result isn't worth talking about. Same reason I'm not mentioning Dwight Howard or Roy Hibbert.

Anderson is what Troy Murphy was a few years ago. Virtually identical skill sets.
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Gotcha.
 
So, Kicky and NUMBERICA, neither of you think we could acquire George with Jefferson or Millsap being the main out-going piece? Or, are you just not interested in George?
 
I don't know a ton about George other than he's had some good games and I would've been content (and MUCH happier than with the Hayward pick, even though Hayward has turned out to be good) to draft him with #9, especially since he seemed to have superstar upside. I'd have to do more research though. I absolutely don't care about keeping Jefferson, so I'd be happy to part with him to get George since he seems like a good player to say the least.
 
Regarding Ryan Anderson, is it just me or is he going to struggle playing in an offense that doesn't evolve around shooting 3-pointers?

Not sure how he would do playing without Dwight.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
Regarding Ryan Anderson, is it just me or is he going to struggle playing in an offense that doesn't evolve around shooting 3-pointers?

Not sure how he would do playing without Dwight.
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I think he'd be fine in a number of offenses with drive and kick players (Chicago, Boston, OKC, Phoenix, GSW, etc) or teams that have passing big men (New York, LAC, Houston, even Memphis apparently).

He showed that he could be useful during the second half of his season with New Jersey without Dwight. I think there's enough evidence to indicate he's the real deal.
 
Sirkickyass said:
I think he'd be fine in a number of offenses with drive and kick players (Chicago, Boston, OKC, Phoenix, GSW, etc) or teams that have passing big men (New York, LAC, Houston, even Memphis apparently).

He showed that he could be useful during the second half of his season with New Jersey without Dwight. I think there's enough evidence to indicate he's the real deal.
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If you give it a green light Kicky, then I approve.
 
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