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Hayward signing outright (reported rumor)

green said:
After reading the reaction from fans here, why would Hayward do any favors for Utah?

After how Checketts has acted?

The ridiculously huge deal over not calling Gail?

Tell me again, why does Gordon owe Utah anything? He fulfilled his contract. He's obligations ended on July 1st.
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Gotta love trolling Boston fans. Yall got him, go whip ya skippys on they're fan site.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Dude, cmon.

Hayward wanted to go to Boston. That's who he wants to play for. He isn't going to let Ainge giving or not giving a TPE to Utah stand in the way of that. He told Ainge he would be willing to be in a S&T and Ainge said no thanks, I'm not giving Utah any handouts.

You can't honestly expect Hayward to base his FA decision on which team is willing to give Utah a TPE. Grow up.
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Chris Paul can(for a team he seemingly hated) not saying he has too or should have, but to me, if it was me...I do make it a condition.

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colton said:
As someone pointed out earlier, Hayward could easily force this to happen. If he really cared about the Jazz like he said in his farewell article, he would... and as there would be no loss of assets for the Celtics there's no argument against doing it. That bears repeating. Over and over again.
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And you'd be wrong. Over and over and over again.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The hypothetical of some other team stealing a player from them and not agreeing to a TPE is far less crushing than giving a TPE to a team then having that team scoop up a player you were also targeting in a trade.

You can disagree with Ainge's philosophy, but don't cry about it. Ainge isn't playing for favors.
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These people are idiots.
 
SCS said:
Let me break this down for you.

The Jazz receive a TPE and a player Boston will cut anyway given their new roster (if a player even has to come back)

The Celtics receive a future second round pick and Haywood

The Celtics give up a TPE that is useless to them and a player they are releasing anyway (again, if a player even has to come back in return). Which means they give up NOTHING. In return they receive Haywood and a FREE second round pick.

They win. There's no reason for them not to do that other than to be d****

Do you understand?
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Hayward is not part of this, ok?

He's signing with Boston regardless. Just ignore that he's even involved.
 
I think the way Hayward handled the situation, was pretty unprofessional, but the Celtics and Hayward owe the Jazz nothing. Hayward was a free agent and could sign with any team he wanted to sign with, so I am not mad about him leaving. However, No one can convince me that he didn't already know he was leaving, the fact that he visited Boston and Miami but made the Jazz go to San Diego annoyed me and it was a sign he was leaving. No one can convince me that the Celtics didn't tamper. Does any one believe that Stevens and Hayward haven't talked about their unfinished business all these years.

Ainge is a very good GM, he isn't worried about doing favors because his job is to build the best team for Boston, but he acts like a dick because it works for him. You have to be a dick to trade Bradley especially to Detroit. I could care less about the TPE or getting anything from the Celtics, All I want is for Jazz nation to take all this negative energy and use it to cheer on the Jazz. Hayward is the past and he ain't coming back, we'll see if the grass is really greener. I think the Celtics are going to have some issues with their roster so maybe the Jazz can swoop in and take away one of their players someday.
 
green said:
After reading the reaction from fans here, why would Hayward do any favors for Utah?

After how Checketts has acted?

The ridiculously huge deal over not calling Gail?

Tell me again, why does Gordon owe Utah anything? He fulfilled his contract. He's obligations ended on July 1st.
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Because the training and coaching staff helped make him who he is? It's not like he was some instant all star it took him 7 long seasons to become one.
In another team's system he could have just ended up a roleplayer. 99% of us thought he was a finished product when he signed that last max contract, go back and
look if you doubt it. Quin drove him to be an all star.
 
So is this done yet? Like final final... I don't see us doing any signings until this is dead.

And I don't mean Jae Crowder... just getting the TPE.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So is this done yet? Like final final... I don't see us doing any signings until this is dead.

And I don't mean Jae Crowder... just getting the TPE.
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No idea. I'd imagine if/when there's a press conference, then it's official.
 
With all the fallout and speculation that has gone on, I think this is going to follow Hayward for the rest of his career. He handled it much worse than Lebron's decision, and people still sometimes get on him for that. But Lebron didn't owe the Cavs for making him like Gordon owes the Jazz. And Lebron was much more open about it and took the heat while Hayseed whimped out the back door.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Because the training and coaching staff helped make him who he is? It's not like he was some instant all star it took him 7 long seasons to become one.
In another team's system he could have just ended up a roleplayer. 99% of us thought he was a finished product when he signed that last max contract, go back and
look if you doubt it. Quin drove him to be an all star.
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Yes, the staff helped. But in the end, it was Hayward's hard work that got him where he is. Quin didn't drive him to be an All Star.

I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

Quin and Utah helped Hayward, no doubt. But let's not act like they took a terrible player and made him great. He was the 9th pick in the draft.
 
green said:
I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.
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That sounds like a very un-green thing to be said a few years ago. I'd be interested in seeing some quotes to back that up.
 
green said:
Yes, the staff helped. But in the end, it was Hayward's hard work that got him where he is. Quin didn't drive him to be an All Star.

I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

Quin and Utah helped Hayward, no doubt. But let's not act like they took a terrible player and made him great. He was the 9th pick in the draft.
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Why don't just post your crap on the Celtics website? You know you have generated a lot of animosity with your pathetic apologies for behavior that is unworthy of a man of character. Take a swim in your Celtics green slime.
 
green said:
Yes, the staff helped. But in the end, it was Hayward's hard work that got him where he is. Quin didn't drive him to be an All Star.

I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

Quin and Utah helped Hayward, no doubt. But let's not act like they took a terrible player and made him great. He was the 9th pick in the draft.
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Yeah, I can only hope that Hood, Exum, Mitchell, etc can put in the same work that Hayward has. I think they all have potential to be very good players and borderline all stars, Exum especially. I basically consider last year to be Exums rookie year as far as development goes.
 
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