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Hayward signing outright (reported rumor)

After reading the reaction from fans here, why would Hayward do any favors for Utah?

After how Checketts has acted?

The ridiculously huge deal over not calling Gail?

Tell me again, why does Gordon owe Utah anything? He fulfilled his contract. He's obligations ended on July 1st.

Because the training and coaching staff helped make him who he is? It's not like he was some instant all star it took him 7 long seasons to become one.
In another team's system he could have just ended up a roleplayer. 99% of us thought he was a finished product when he signed that last max contract, go back and
look if you doubt it. Quin drove him to be an all star.
 
So is this done yet? Like final final... I don't see us doing any signings until this is dead.

And I don't mean Jae Crowder... just getting the TPE.
 
So is this done yet? Like final final... I don't see us doing any signings until this is dead.

And I don't mean Jae Crowder... just getting the TPE.

No idea. I'd imagine if/when there's a press conference, then it's official.
 
With all the fallout and speculation that has gone on, I think this is going to follow Hayward for the rest of his career. He handled it much worse than Lebron's decision, and people still sometimes get on him for that. But Lebron didn't owe the Cavs for making him like Gordon owes the Jazz. And Lebron was much more open about it and took the heat while Hayseed whimped out the back door.
 
Because the training and coaching staff helped make him who he is? It's not like he was some instant all star it took him 7 long seasons to become one.
In another team's system he could have just ended up a roleplayer. 99% of us thought he was a finished product when he signed that last max contract, go back and
look if you doubt it. Quin drove him to be an all star.

Yes, the staff helped. But in the end, it was Hayward's hard work that got him where he is. Quin didn't drive him to be an All Star.

I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

Quin and Utah helped Hayward, no doubt. But let's not act like they took a terrible player and made him great. He was the 9th pick in the draft.
 
I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

That sounds like a very un-green thing to be said a few years ago. I'd be interested in seeing some quotes to back that up.
 
Yes, the staff helped. But in the end, it was Hayward's hard work that got him where he is. Quin didn't drive him to be an All Star.

I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

Quin and Utah helped Hayward, no doubt. But let's not act like they took a terrible player and made him great. He was the 9th pick in the draft.

Why don't just post your crap on the Celtics website? You know you have generated a lot of animosity with your pathetic apologies for behavior that is unworthy of a man of character. Take a swim in your Celtics green slime.
 
Yes, the staff helped. But in the end, it was Hayward's hard work that got him where he is. Quin didn't drive him to be an All Star.

I don't think anyone thought he was finished then. I know I thought he had potential to be a 25 point a night scorer.

Quin and Utah helped Hayward, no doubt. But let's not act like they took a terrible player and made him great. He was the 9th pick in the draft.

Yeah, I can only hope that Hood, Exum, Mitchell, etc can put in the same work that Hayward has. I think they all have potential to be very good players and borderline all stars, Exum especially. I basically consider last year to be Exums rookie year as far as development goes.
 
Yeah, I can only hope that Hood, Exum, Mitchell, etc can put in the same work that Hayward has. I think they all have potential to be very good players and borderline all stars, Exum especially. I basically consider last year to be Exums rookie year as far as development goes.

It will be fun to watch.
 
Hayward is not part of this, ok?

He's signing with Boston regardless. Just ignore that he's even involved.
Ok, so taking Haywood out of it..... Celtics get a 2nd round pick and lose absolutely nothing.
Seems kinda dumb for the celtics to say "we don't want a free 2nd round pick"
 
That sounds like a very un-green thing to be said a few years ago. I'd be interested in seeing some quotes to back that up.
Well now that Haywood is on a different team its ok for green to really be hyped about him.
 
Ok, so taking Haywood out of it..... Celtics get a 2nd round pick and lose absolutely nothing.
Seems kinda dumb for the celtics to say "we don't want a free 2nd round pick"
1. Celtics don't need a 2nd round pick. They already have more than they can use.
2. Celtics help a potential competitor. Boston needs another "star" somehow. Giving Utah $30M to freely use - without having to clear cap room - puts Utah in direct competition.

It makes absolutely ZERO sense for Boston to give Utah a TPE. Sorry to say, but if the Jazz were in the reverse situation, Utah should try to get an asset out of Team X and ask for at least a protected first.
 
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