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Maybe, just maybe this could be a turning point. If Trump wants to remain ambiguous it becomes quite clear that he values the support of White Nationalists above his moral imperative to represent ALL OF US.

If the Republican party hasn't rejected him by now I'm not hopeful that they ever will, but maybe this is just too far and too real for many that have remained silent.
 
Black lives matter, white supremacist. Same thing. Racists.

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I've been trying to not to judge posters based on the stuff I've seen in the Jazz forum, but I think nateboz might be the first person I can say this about. Whatever he/she says is the opposite of what I think.

If nateboz is a troll please let me know. TIA.
 
Has the alt-right already started claiming none of this happened, this is all just a liberal media hoax yet? Or do we have to wait a day or two until they come up with that?
 
Radical-Christian domestic terrorism shows itself. It was only a matter of time.


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Has the alt-right already started claiming none of this happened, this is all just a liberal media hoax yet? Or do we have to wait a day or two until they come up with that?

Sort of.

David Duke and that racist Mormon chick are all claiming that it's fake news. At one point they claimed that the dude in the car was a leftist (despite pictures showing he was clearly wearing alt right/KKK garb and carried a shield). They claim that the violence was all one sided, on the "animals"/leftists. It's all on twitter if you want to sift through garbage. I would recommend not wasting any time on it. It's all trash. You could combined the IQ of all of Duke's followers and it still wouldn't reach double digits.
 
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Duke's response to Trump's tweet from today:

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Has the alt-right already started claiming none of this happened, this is all just a liberal media hoax yet? Or do we have to wait a day or two until they come up with that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UpF8H1Zjcw'

alt right source!!!

faith goldy intevriewed by stefan molynuex
 
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seems like a real neo nazi to me

first us president EVER to visit the wailing wall!
 
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For the record record if one of you alt right pieces of **** want to run your mouth around me I will happily knock every ****in inbred tooth out of your head.

The president statements that this was somehow two sided are absolutely f****** b*******. You ***** *** f****** Suburban pieces of s*** want to f****** see what happens when it's two sided? You really want to f****** see? Keep your f****** b******* on the f****** internet. That's a threat. If I hear it I stop it with f****** violence. There's way more of us than there are you and we are way more f****** capable. Y'all want some f****** b******* f****** Final Stand f****** race war whatever God damn who move God damn bul**** you got f****** going on in your f****** crazy maniac f****** conspiracy theory Minds? Let's f****** do it b****

Samesies
 
Maybe, just maybe this could be a turning point. If Trump wants to remain ambiguous it becomes quite clear that he values the support of White Nationalists above his moral imperative to represent ALL OF US.

If the Republican party hasn't rejected him by now I'm not hopeful that they ever will, but maybe this is just too far and too real for many that have remained silent.

"There are not “many” sides. We are Americans living our lives. We are Americans of all stripes, creeds, colors and ethnicity. To elevate Trump’s deplorable, evil fringe as a “side” equal to the rest of us united was extraordinary for a U.S. president — and nothing short of vile.

Donald Trump carefully, purposefully, and strategically established moral equivalency between the Nazis and white supremacists in Charlottesville, and those protesting them. Can you imagine Winston Churchill or Franklin D. Roosevelt bestowing similar moral equivalency on Hitler’s Nazi Germany and the millions of allied troops fighting and dying to rid the planet of such evil?

Charlottesville, tragically, will now serve as a mecca for white supremacists who firmly believe that with Trump, their day has finally, at long last, arrived."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-another-side-cheri-jacobus-column/562740001/

[MENTION=4984]Bulletproof[/MENTION], I feel the same way and hold out the same hope. May this be a turning point. Throughout the campaign he let fly dog whistles for this vile element of American society. He did so again yesterday by drawing this moral equivalency. He ran as a demagogue appealing to reactionary elements in American society. Now the whole world has seen that he is unable and unwilling to separate himself from those reactionary bigots. All Americans of good heart should stand united against his disgusting willingness to draw moral equivalency between people protesting racial hatred and the Neo Nazis and white nationalist who promote it, and have felt emboldened by two years of dog whistles issued by this vile man.
 
This is the era of bigotry, ignorance taking over the power. Feel the change. Winter of Hatred is coming. Stick to your ideals of humanity and tolerance. Or all will be lost.
 
More perspective for yesterday's events in Charlottesville. "Heil Trump"? How much clearer could it be that it is Donald Trump who helped invigorate this resurgence of hate? As far as the Alt Right marchers are concerned, he is one of them. And until he condemns them in no uncertain terms, why should any American not believe them?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.cd8b29630cde

"President Trump lit every one of those torches in Charlottesville.

Yes, the white supremacists have always been with us. A parade of racist bigots is no surprise to anyone familiar with our history, especially those who have been the target of hatred and violence for centuries.

But when the mob of white men marched in Charlottesville carrying flaming torches Friday night shouting “Heil Trump” as the curtain-raiser for a day of violent clashes with counter-protesters that left three people dead, they showed the world that America is once again playing with fire.

And Trump was the one with the match.

The symbolism was not subtle. Torches, witch hunts, flaming crosses — they all stretch back to our country’s founding. All those white-power bros knew exactly the kind of fear they were trying to evoke, even if their tiki torches came from Home Depot’s end-of-the-season patio sale.

The Nazi and Confederate flags were equally chilling to the millions of Americans who lost relatives in the Holocaust, in the fight against Hitler or have vivid memories of relentless racial oppression, including lynchings, church bombings and assassinations at the hands of the Ku Klux Klan and other white power terrorists.

Now we’re live-streaming that very same hatred, while Trump looks the other way. It was 90 years ago that Fred Trump, Donald Trump’s father, was arrested for failing to disperse at
a Ku Klux Klan rally in Queens that sounded a lot like the scene at Charlottesville.
Except today, there are no hoods.

Donald Trump gave everyone permission to take those hoods off with his winks, nods and refusal to take a moral stand on racial hatred and intimidation during his campaign and during the first six months of his presidency."
 
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