Charlottesville

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I said around the election that while not all Trump voters were racist, but they were willing to overlook overt racism in the trump campaign for a perceived benefit.

Today, there is no excuse. They are no longer "looking the other way"

If you still support Trump, you are racist. It's simple, it's plain and easy for all to see. Keep supporting Trump only if you belwive in white supremacy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

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For the record record if one of you alt right pieces of **** want to run your mouth around me I will happily knock every ****in inbred tooth out of your head.

The president statements that this was somehow two sided are absolutely f****** b*******. You ***** *** f****** Suburban pieces of s*** want to f****** see what happens when it's two sided? You really want to f****** see? Keep your f****** b******* on the f****** internet. That's a threat. If I hear it I stop it with f****** violence. There's way more of us than there are you and we are way more f****** capable. Y'all want some f****** b******* f****** Final Stand f****** race war whatever God damn who move God damn bul**** you got f****** going on in your f****** crazy maniac f****** conspiracy theory Minds? Let's f****** do it b****

You can't stop anything with violence unless you are willing to murder everyone in the group. Violence will only cause more people to become radicalized in their movement. It might feel good, but the end result will only be worse in the long-run.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

I agree that we're seeing extremism from both sides play itself out in our country, and that both sides need (which extremists are on the same side whether they realize it or not) to come together to address this. Conservatives have latched on to poor, white America and played off their fear to win. That's the road they chose, even by looking the other way and not addressing the role white nationalist/KKK/white supremacists played in their victory last election, and now they need to own it. It would go along way with those on the left if those on the right admitted they were wrong and apologized to minority America for propping up domestic terrorists. They refuse to admit what they've done, and now they're playing at old card of "it's both sides fault and we need to come together." This is complete ********, and it's insulting. They're fence sitting and avoiding looking in the mirror on this issue. Progressives have been fighting this for decades, and conservatives before them, and conservatives have sat back looking for excuses alleviating them from culpability. Own it, realize you were wrong and made a mistake.

Conservatism in America houses white hate groups, like it or not, and avoiding condemning them by name is chicken ****. They've done this since The Southern Strategy was deployed, and they've reaped the benefits. Now own the consequences, put on the big boy pants, and start helping those of us who have actively spoken out against racism in America. We have a problem with the race majority in this country. Some white people feel like they are losing power and they're panicking, and now murdering opposition in broad daylight. The longer the right draws this out and refuses to take responsibility for not clearly condemning white supremacy will only make things worse. There is no "many sides" to this problem, either you stand with white nationalists or you fight against them by standing firmly with those that oppose them. There is no grey area here, as much as you want to think there is.

Swallow your pride. Admit you're wrong and let's move on and fight extremists together. The longer you wait, the stronger they become.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I agree that we're seeing extremism from both sides play itself out in our country, and that both sides need (which extremists are on the same side whether they realize it or not) to come together to address this. Conservatives have latched on to poor, white America and played off their fear to win. That's the road they chose, even by looking the other way and not addressing the role white nationalist/KKK/white supremacists played in their victory last election, and now they need to own it. It would go along way with those on the left if those on the right admitted they were wrong and apologized to minority America for propping up domestic terrorists. They refuse to admit what they've done, and now they're playing at old card of "it's both sides fault and we need to come together." This is complete ********, and it's insulting. They're fence sitting and avoiding looking in the mirror on this issue. Progressives have been fighting this for decades, and conservatives before them, and conservatives have sat back looking for excuses alleviating them from culpability. Own it, realize you were wrong and made a mistake.

Conservatism in America houses white hate groups, like it or not, and avoiding condemning them by name is chicken ****. They've done this since The Southern Strategy was deployed, and they've reaped the benefits. Now own the consequences, put on the big boy pants, and start helping those of us who have actively spoken out against racism in America. We have a problem with the race majority in this country. Some white people feel like they are losing power and they're panicking, and now murdering opposition in broad daylight. The longer the right draws this out and refuses to take responsibility for not clearly condemning white supremacy will only make things worse. There is no "many sides" to this problem, either you stand with white nationalists or you fight against them by standing firmly with those that oppose them. There is no grey area here, as much as you want to think there is.

Swallow your pride. Admit you're wrong and let's move on and fight extremists together. The longer you wait, the stronger they become.

What does fighting entail though? Are we literately going to go out and murder all of them?

Obviously the guy who ran the people over deserves the death penalty, but how do we find these people before they commit these crimes? It kind of just becomes a witch hunt then. Are we killing everyone who shows up to participate in these rallies even if they dont commit acts of violence? Are we just putting them in jail?

It feels similar to the Middle Eastern conflict to me. The idea that we have to fight and bomb "radical Islam" to death, but in reality, we only create further havoc and resentment.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

But this all ties into how ****ed up the government made race relations by exploiting blacks in America through slavery then later on with how the prison/justice system works. All that has put a large portion of the black population in dire situations that has escalated to crime and violence, which has only hurt race relations as dumb whites see it more as the black communities fault than the governments (when in reality, if White Nationalist got their way and had an all white USA, then the government would need to find a new class of people to exploit in a similar fashion).

If you dont fix that, then can you really fix the White Nationalist problem in any meaningful way? Isn't that the battle we should be fighting?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

But this all ties into how ****ed up the government made race relations by exploiting blacks in America through slavery then later on with how the prison/justice system works. All that has put a large portion of the black population in dire situations that has escalated to crime and violence, which has only hurt race relations as dumb whites see it more as the black communities fault than the governments (when in reality, if White Nationalist got their way and had an all white USA, then the government would need to find a new class of people to exploit in a similar fashion).

If you dont fix that, then can you really fix the White Nationalist problem in any meaningful way? Isn't that the battle we should be fighting?

That is definitely one of many ways to fight oppression of minorities in the US.

But let's keep it simple for those who are new to actively engaging racists. Speak up when stupid people say stupid ****. Every single time.


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[Boris]

I agree that we're seeing extremism from both sides play itself out in our country, and that both sides need (which extremists are on the same side whether they realize it or not) to come together to address this. Conservatives have latched on to poor, white America and played off their fear to win. That's the road they chose, even by looking the other way and not addressing the role white nationalist/KKK/white supremacists played in their victory last election, and now they need to own it. It would go along way with those on the left if those on the right admitted they were wrong and apologized to minority America for propping up domestic terrorists. They refuse to admit what they've done, and now they're playing at old card of "it's both sides fault and we need to come together." This is complete ********, and it's insulting. They're fence sitting and avoiding looking in the mirror on this issue. Progressives have been fighting this for decades, and conservatives before them, and conservatives have sat back looking for excuses alleviating them from culpability. Own it, realize you were wrong and made a mistake.

Conservatism in America houses white hate groups, like it or not, and avoiding condemning them by name is chicken ****. They've done this since The Southern Strategy was deployed, and they've reaped the benefits. Now own the consequences, put on the big boy pants, and start helping those of us who have actively spoken out against racism in America. We have a problem with the race majority in this country. Some white people feel like they are losing power and they're panicking, and now murdering opposition in broad daylight. The longer the right draws this out and refuses to take responsibility for not clearly condemning white supremacy will only make things worse. There is no "many sides" to this problem, either you stand with white nationalists or you fight against them by standing firmly with those that oppose them. There is no grey area here, as much as you want to think there is.

Swallow your pride. Admit you're wrong and let's move on and fight extremists together. The longer you wait, the stronger they become.

Is you ****in kidding me? Conservatives HAVE been callin out Dump. Hell are very own great senator Hatch said his own brother dint die fighting Nazis for this **** to happen. Marco Rubio spoke out.

Sides, everthink Trump said was civil. You gon argue that sayin we should love an respect each other an every child should feel safe outside? Never Trumpers ain't rational.

 

[Boris]

Has the alt-right already started claiming none of this happened, this is all just a liberal media hoax yet? Or do we have to wait a day or two until they come up with that?

Radical-Christian domestic terrorism shows itself. It was only a matter of time.


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Ohhh gawd Is there any sensibility left in this world?

 

[JazzMan4Life]

The potential of Civil War 2, Korean War 2, and a reality TV star running the country on Twitter. What a time to be alive.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The potential of Civil War 2, Korean War 2, and a reality TV star running the country on Twitter. What a time to be alive.

There is no civil war potential. The military is too strong/large.

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[jimmy eat jazz]

The most enjoyable part of this thread is watching our resident village idiot DutchJazzer twist himself into knots trying to find a way to 'white wash' this.

 

[Gameface]

It will be a very good sign if Bannon gets ousted from the White House.

 

[DutchJazzer]

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For the record record if one of you alt right pieces of **** want to run your mouth around me I will happily knock every ****in inbred tooth out of your head.

The president statements that this was somehow two sided are absolutely f****** b*******. You ***** *** f****** Suburban pieces of s*** want to f****** see what happens when it's two sided? You really want to f****** see? Keep your f****** b******* on the f****** internet. That's a threat. If I hear it I stop it with f****** violence. There's way more of us than there are you and we are way more f****** capable. Y'all want some f****** b******* f****** Final Stand f****** race war whatever God damn who move God damn bul**** you got f****** going on in your f****** crazy maniac f****** conspiracy theory Minds? Let's f****** do it b****

your rights end where my mouth begins!


but you are welcome to try and knock my face in. many have tried, and equally as many have failed misserably!

 

[DutchJazzer]

You can't stop anything with violence unless you are willing to murder everyone in the group. Violence will only cause more people to become radicalized in their movement. It might feel good, but the end result will only be worse in the long-run.

exactly when the lines of communication seize to exist in a society, the only thing left is violence! then society turns into barbarian society.
nobody here who criticizes these people ever took the time to read charlotsville statement!
i do not agree with all those points. but these people just wanna be left alone mostly!

 

[DutchJazzer]

What does fighting entail though? Are we literately going to go out and murder all of them?

Obviously the guy who ran the people over deserves the death penalty, but how do we find these people before they commit these crimes? It kind of just becomes a witch hunt then. Are we killing everyone who shows up to participate in these rallies even if they dont commit acts of violence? Are we just putting them in jail?

in a leftist society, their are things as hate speech, and things like you cannot protest!

after all the north korea and venezuela started out as true socialist/communist states!

and yes chavez started seizing the means of productions. denmark sweden and other european countries have socialist elements. but they have very low corporate taxes and such. they have high personal taxes. so underneath all that socializm their is a cpaitalist system keeping it alive

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Might be the strongest of all and it comes from utah's own senator:

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Hatch has had literally dozens of opportunities over the last several years to take a determined, moral stand against Trump's pandering to the White Nationalist, including bringing them into the White House, yet he's said nothing, done nothing. While it's good he's finally speaking up, this sort of crap was easily predictable given that it was evident Trump was empowering and emboldening the White Nationalists, and they saw him as their Man.

One keeps waiting for the Republican Party to finally, finally stand up to this poisonous, incompetent, unqualified, bigot occupying the White House.

 

[DutchJazzer]

The most enjoyable part of this thread is watching our resident village idiot DutchJazzer twist himself into knots trying to find a way to 'white wash' this.

how am i white washing it. the organizers started somehting and some nazi(natyional sozialist) showed up. because the media is lying to them for years that nazi is right wing! so some extremist show up. now the whole movement is extremist.


i believe that freedom of speech is absolute.

you have the right to fly a nazi flag, as long as you do not physically hurt somebody, or steal money for socialized healthcare!
even though i am the last person to agree with national sozialist.

but if the government starts to decide nazi speech and nazi flags are banned. soon they decide more and more and more and more stuff is considered hate speech!


hate speech is not universal.
to me a nazi flag is offesnive, maybe to you. but not to everyone. if you punch someone it hurts everyone!
we can only make things illegal that are universal and infringe on everyone!

as long as the nazi flag wavers just wave their flags. without pushing people in ovens, and start taxing people for universal healthcare, and forcing everyone into unions. i am ok with them having their rigths


i do not agree with what they are saying, but i stand by their freedom to do so!

some of you leftist might not get that, because freedom of speech never works with socialism and communism. because even your mouth and property belongs to the state

 

[Gameface]

Dutch equating neo-Nazis in the U.S. with socialists is funny.

 

[Harambe]

Dumbass

lol

I think Wikipdia actually put it together pretty well, other than being pretty damn generous to the alt-right. There's links in there for reference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Unite_the_Right_rally

 

[Harambe]

Dutch equating neo-Nazis in the U.S. with socialists is funny.

Socialists come in all shapes and sizes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)

You can't equate the two, but you can't really put them on opposite sides either either.