DutchJazzer
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wait a while rbother.
every single right rally has been infiltrated by antifa.
if they cant find nazi they invent them
Charlottesville
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wait a while rbother.
every single right rally has been infiltrated by antifa.
if they cant find nazi they invent them
DutchJazzer
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once and for al. NAZI is national sozialist it is left wing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DutchJazzer
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seems like a real neo nazi to me
first us president EVER to visit the wailing wall!
♪alt13
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b_line
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Samesies
Red
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"There are not “many” sides. We are Americans living our lives. We are Americans of all stripes, creeds, colors and ethnicity. To elevate Trump’s deplorable, evil fringe as a “side” equal to the rest of us united was extraordinary for a U.S. president — and nothing short of vile.
Donald Trump carefully, purposefully, and strategically established moral equivalency between the Nazis and white supremacists in Charlottesville, and those protesting them. Can you imagine Winston Churchill or Franklin D. Roosevelt bestowing similar moral equivalency on Hitler’s Nazi Germany and the millions of allied troops fighting and dying to rid the planet of such evil?
Charlottesville, tragically, will now serve as a mecca for white supremacists who firmly believe that with Trump, their day has finally, at long last, arrived."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-another-side-cheri-jacobus-column/562740001/
[MENTION=4984]Bulletproof[/MENTION], I feel the same way and hold out the same hope. May this be a turning point. Throughout the campaign he let fly dog whistles for this vile element of American society. He did so again yesterday by drawing this moral equivalency. He ran as a demagogue appealing to reactionary elements in American society. Now the whole world has seen that he is unable and unwilling to separate himself from those reactionary bigots. All Americans of good heart should stand united against his disgusting willingness to draw moral equivalency between people protesting racial hatred and the Neo Nazis and white nationalist who promote it, and have felt emboldened by two years of dog whistles issued by this vile man.
addictionary
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This is the era of bigotry, ignorance taking over the power. Feel the change. Winter of Hatred is coming. Stick to your ideals of humanity and tolerance. Or all will be lost.
Red
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More perspective for yesterday's events in Charlottesville. "Heil Trump"? How much clearer could it be that it is Donald Trump who helped invigorate this resurgence of hate? As far as the Alt Right marchers are concerned, he is one of them. And until he condemns them in no uncertain terms, why should any American not believe them?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.cd8b29630cde
"President Trump lit every one of those torches in Charlottesville.
Yes, the white supremacists have always been with us. A parade of racist bigots is no surprise to anyone familiar with our history, especially those who have been the target of hatred and violence for centuries.
But when the mob of white men marched in Charlottesville carrying flaming torches Friday night shouting “Heil Trump” as the curtain-raiser for a day of violent clashes with counter-protesters that left three people dead, they showed the world that America is once again playing with fire.
And Trump was the one with the match.
The symbolism was not subtle. Torches, witch hunts, flaming crosses — they all stretch back to our country’s founding. All those white-power bros knew exactly the kind of fear they were trying to evoke, even if their tiki torches came from Home Depot’s end-of-the-season patio sale.
The Nazi and Confederate flags were equally chilling to the millions of Americans who lost relatives in the Holocaust, in the fight against Hitler or have vivid memories of relentless racial oppression, including lynchings, church bombings and assassinations at the hands of the Ku Klux Klan and other white power terrorists.
Now we’re live-streaming that very same hatred, while Trump looks the other way. It was 90 years ago that Fred Trump, Donald Trump’s father, was arrested for failing to disperse at
a Ku Klux Klan rally in Queens that sounded a lot like the scene at Charlottesville.
Except today, there are no hoods.
Donald Trump gave everyone permission to take those hoods off with his winks, nods and refusal to take a moral stand on racial hatred and intimidation during his campaign and during the first six months of his presidency."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.cd8b29630cde
"President Trump lit every one of those torches in Charlottesville.
Yes, the white supremacists have always been with us. A parade of racist bigots is no surprise to anyone familiar with our history, especially those who have been the target of hatred and violence for centuries.
But when the mob of white men marched in Charlottesville carrying flaming torches Friday night shouting “Heil Trump” as the curtain-raiser for a day of violent clashes with counter-protesters that left three people dead, they showed the world that America is once again playing with fire.
And Trump was the one with the match.
The symbolism was not subtle. Torches, witch hunts, flaming crosses — they all stretch back to our country’s founding. All those white-power bros knew exactly the kind of fear they were trying to evoke, even if their tiki torches came from Home Depot’s end-of-the-season patio sale.
The Nazi and Confederate flags were equally chilling to the millions of Americans who lost relatives in the Holocaust, in the fight against Hitler or have vivid memories of relentless racial oppression, including lynchings, church bombings and assassinations at the hands of the Ku Klux Klan and other white power terrorists.
Now we’re live-streaming that very same hatred, while Trump looks the other way. It was 90 years ago that Fred Trump, Donald Trump’s father, was arrested for failing to disperse at
a Ku Klux Klan rally in Queens that sounded a lot like the scene at Charlottesville.
Except today, there are no hoods.
Donald Trump gave everyone permission to take those hoods off with his winks, nods and refusal to take a moral stand on racial hatred and intimidation during his campaign and during the first six months of his presidency."
b_line
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I said around the election that while not all Trump voters were racist, but they were willing to overlook overt racism in the trump campaign for a perceived benefit.
Today, there is no excuse. They are no longer "looking the other way"
If you still support Trump, you are racist. It's simple, it's plain and easy for all to see. Keep supporting Trump only if you belwive in white supremacy.
Today, there is no excuse. They are no longer "looking the other way"
If you still support Trump, you are racist. It's simple, it's plain and easy for all to see. Keep supporting Trump only if you belwive in white supremacy.
You can't stop anything with violence unless you are willing to murder everyone in the group. Violence will only cause more people to become radicalized in their movement. It might feel good, but the end result will only be worse in the long-run.
I agree that we're seeing extremism from both sides play itself out in our country, and that both sides need (which extremists are on the same side whether they realize it or not) to come together to address this. Conservatives have latched on to poor, white America and played off their fear to win. That's the road they chose, even by looking the other way and not addressing the role white nationalist/KKK/white supremacists played in their victory last election, and now they need to own it. It would go along way with those on the left if those on the right admitted they were wrong and apologized to minority America for propping up domestic terrorists. They refuse to admit what they've done, and now they're playing at old card of "it's both sides fault and we need to come together." This is complete ********, and it's insulting. They're fence sitting and avoiding looking in the mirror on this issue. Progressives have been fighting this for decades, and conservatives before them, and conservatives have sat back looking for excuses alleviating them from culpability. Own it, realize you were wrong and made a mistake.
Conservatism in America houses white hate groups, like it or not, and avoiding condemning them by name is chicken ****. They've done this since The Southern Strategy was deployed, and they've reaped the benefits. Now own the consequences, put on the big boy pants, and start helping those of us who have actively spoken out against racism in America. We have a problem with the race majority in this country. Some white people feel like they are losing power and they're panicking, and now murdering opposition in broad daylight. The longer the right draws this out and refuses to take responsibility for not clearly condemning white supremacy will only make things worse. There is no "many sides" to this problem, either you stand with white nationalists or you fight against them by standing firmly with those that oppose them. There is no grey area here, as much as you want to think there is.
Swallow your pride. Admit you're wrong and let's move on and fight extremists together. The longer you wait, the stronger they become.
Conservatism in America houses white hate groups, like it or not, and avoiding condemning them by name is chicken ****. They've done this since The Southern Strategy was deployed, and they've reaped the benefits. Now own the consequences, put on the big boy pants, and start helping those of us who have actively spoken out against racism in America. We have a problem with the race majority in this country. Some white people feel like they are losing power and they're panicking, and now murdering opposition in broad daylight. The longer the right draws this out and refuses to take responsibility for not clearly condemning white supremacy will only make things worse. There is no "many sides" to this problem, either you stand with white nationalists or you fight against them by standing firmly with those that oppose them. There is no grey area here, as much as you want to think there is.
Swallow your pride. Admit you're wrong and let's move on and fight extremists together. The longer you wait, the stronger they become.
What does fighting entail though? Are we literately going to go out and murder all of them?
Obviously the guy who ran the people over deserves the death penalty, but how do we find these people before they commit these crimes? It kind of just becomes a witch hunt then. Are we killing everyone who shows up to participate in these rallies even if they dont commit acts of violence? Are we just putting them in jail?
It feels similar to the Middle Eastern conflict to me. The idea that we have to fight and bomb "radical Islam" to death, but in reality, we only create further havoc and resentment.