Las Vegas: Worst Mass Shooting in US History

[DutchJazzer]

We should definitely ban drunk driving.

We should also ban speeding.

We should also ban texting and driving since "Texting while driving is 6x more likely to cause an accident than driving drunk."

we should ban criminals!

 

[Ron Mexico]

yes you can have anything. as long as you dont use it to take anoher guys liberty!

Gotta, we can only make laws around people once they have broken them.

I mean I should be able to drink and drive, speed run red lights and do whatever because I am a good driver and wont hurt anyone else. You should only take away those rights from me once I have hurt someone. More solid logic from Dutchy. Its my car you cant take it away or tell me what to do with it if I am not hurting anyone else with it.

I dont think we should ban guns but you are making really bad arguments that has suspect logic. You cant apply that logic to other things. We have drivers licences, laws for drivers and many safety features on cars to prevent injury and deaths. Why cant we do the same with Guns?

Living in a society means you give up some freedoms, rights and liberties to receive the benefits of society. You have to pay some amount of taxes, you have to have your car registered, you have to have an ID,

 

[Red]

Gotta, we can only make laws around people once they have broken them.

I mean I should be able to drink and drive, speed run red lights and do whatever because I am a good driver and wont hurt anyone else. You should only take away those rights from me once I have hurt someone. More solid logic from Dutchy. Its my car you cant take it away or tell me what to do with it if I am not hurting anyone else with it.

I dont think we should ban guns but you are making really bad arguments that has suspect logic. You cant apply that logic to other things. We have drivers licences, laws for drivers and many safety features on cars to prevent injury and deaths. Why cant we do the same with Guns?

Living in a society means you give up some freedoms, rights and liberties to receive the benefits of society. You have to pay some amount of taxes, you have to have your car registered, you have to have an ID,

I'll bet he knows that. Judging by the laws regarding guns in the Netherlands. He just likes to tell Americans what their laws can or can't be. Should or should not be.

https://www.rnw.org/archive/gun-laws-netherlands

"So what are the rules governing gun ownership in the Netherlands? Dutch gun laws are actually quite strict. Gun ownership is seen not as a right, but a privilege, with hunting and target shooting the only two legitimate reasons for owning a gun.

Self defence is not regarded as a valid argument for owning a gun, and only the police are allowed to carry a weapon. The main purpose of Dutch gun laws is to create a clear division between legal gun owners and people who use guns for criminal purposes. So far, the Dutch have been fairly successful in accomplishing this objective.

Gun owner
Aspiring sport shooters must join a gun club. Application for gun club membership involves a trial period, allowing the club to find out who they are dealing with, and a background check by the Justice ministry. A criminal record - particularly one involving violent incidents –would disqualify the applicant. Currently, there are about 42,000 gun owners registered with the Koninklijke Nederlandse Schutters Associatie (Royal Dutch Riflemen’s Association). All gun clubs are registered with the KNSA, which maintains close contact with the Justice ministry.

After one year of membership – during which period the new member can practice with guns owned by the club – members can apply for a gun permit and, if granted, purchase their first gun. After the second year of membership, gun owners can buy more guns, to a maximum of five. Guns and ammunition kept at home must be stored in separate strongboxes. The police regularly make house-calls to check whether the guns registered in a person’s name are actually in his possession and whether they are properly stored.

As gun ownership is regarded as a privilege, almost any violation of the gun laws will automatically lead to the shooter’s gun permit being revoked. Involvement in a violent incident, or even driving a car under the influence of alcohol, will also result in the permit being revoked."

 

[fishonjazz]

Here we go:

Only 1/3? Sounds like the drunks are doing better than the sobers

 

[fishonjazz]

you are making really bad arguments that has suspect logic.

Dutch gonna dutch

 

[DutchJazzer]

Gotta, we can only make laws around people once they have broken them.

I mean I should be able to drink and drive, speed run red lights and do whatever because I am a good driver and wont hurt anyone else. You should only take away those rights from me once I have hurt someone. More solid logic from Dutchy. Its my car you cant take it away or tell me what to do with it if I am not hurting anyone else with it.

I dont think we should ban guns but you are making really bad arguments that has suspect logic. You cant apply that logic to other things. We have drivers licences, laws for drivers and many safety features on cars to prevent injury and deaths. Why cant we do the same with Guns?

Living in a society means you give up some freedoms, rights and liberties to receive the benefits of society. You have to pay some amount of taxes, you have to have your car registered, you have to have an ID,

i get it socialist believe in punishing people who have done nothing wrong?

 

[Ron Mexico]

i get it socialist believe in punishing people who have done nothing wrong?

So you partially believe in it?

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

The police regularly make house-calls to check whether the guns registered in a person’s name are actually in his possession and whether they are properly stored.

Yeah, that's never gonna fly in this country. This is the kind of situation the NRA will exploit to avoid any gun control at all, by claiming any regulation will eventually lead to extremes.

As gun ownership is regarded as a privilege, almost any violation of the gun laws will automatically lead to the shooter’s gun permit being revoked. Involvement in a violent incident, or even driving a car under the influence of alcohol, will also result in the permit being revoked."

I absolutely agree that any history at all of violent behavior should disqualify people from owning guns. I have mixed feeling about the DUI thing, though. I could see somebody losing gun privileges for a few years, but if you're going to give them their license back at some point, they should get their gun privileges back as well. Non-violent members of society should not be permanently banned from opening guns.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

yes you can have anything. as long as you dont use it to take anoher guys liberty!

Cool, I want to own nukes then. And after I have killed every living thing on the planet, only then will it be ok to take my rights away.

Nukes don't kill people, Trump and Kim Jong-un kill people.

 

[Deleted member 365]

During testimony meeting today an old dude got up and bore testimony. He brought up the Vegas shooting. and how it might have been a conspiracy. We don't know for sure but the FBI is investigating. Apparently Fox News has made people think that there's a grand government conspiracy and cover up. Interesting how the same government that is too incompetent to run health care and education is yet somehow unbelievably competent enough to cover up stuff like Sandy Hook, Benghazi, and Las Vegas.

Why are republicans so stupid?

 

[Ron Mexico]

During testimony meeting today an old dude got up and bore testimony. He brought up the Vegas shooting. and how it might have been a conspiracy. We don't know for sure but the FBI is investigating. Apparently Fox News has made people think that there's a grand government conspiracy and cover up. Interesting how the same government that is too incompetent to run health care and education is yet somehow unbelievably competent enough to cover up stuff like Sandy Hook, Benghazi, and Las Vegas.

Is it awkward when you run into babe at church? Or do you not know each others real life name?

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

During testimony meeting today an old dude got up and bore testimony. He brought up the Vegas shooting. and how it might have been a conspiracy. We don't know for sure but the FBI is investigating. Apparently Fox News has made people think that there's a grand government conspiracy and cover up. Interesting how the same government that is too incompetent to run health care and education is yet somehow unbelievably competent enough to cover up stuff like Sandy Hook, Benghazi, and Las Vegas.

Why are republicans so stupid?

There is a segment of our society that is absolutely desperate for this to be a Muslim terrorist incident, and not a rich, white guy who went of the rails incident.