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So who would of you picked?

cyclo said:
I am.

So don't tell me the Jazz know what they're doing in the draft.
The Jazz haven't a clue what they're doing.
Hayward will prove to be one of the biggest busts of all time as you can expect at least a dozen of the players drafted after him to end up better players in the NBA.
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I like how he conveniently leaves out 2005 and 2006.
 
The-Joker said:
I don't understand why we didn't trade down... we couldn't have gotten him at 15???
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No. Indiana was really high on this Kid from some of the reports I have read and prob. would have taken him at 10. (Don't you know that this is just payback for them Taking Hibbert when we wanted him?)
 
Borat said:
Of course not. With that said, Kris reminds me most of Babbit. Athletic, strong, excellent numbers for a complete piece of garbage team, which he was unable to take anywhere. Except Babbit was 21 years older when he accomplished same things as Kris did at 19. So, if you wanted to avoid a ghost of Kris Humphiries, Babbit would be the one to stay away from.
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Babbitt is nothing like Humphries.

Babbitt is a pure shooter and multi-skilled scorer. He's the complete NBA package offensively.

Humphries is more like Joe Alexander -- physical tools, but no NBA skills. At the NBA level, physical tools alone aren't enough.
 
vslice02 said:
This has been my feeling. I didn't like the pick but I can't overly criticize it because there wasn't another player available who didn't have as many questions or doubts as Hayward does.
Ed Davis: Probably my preferred pick but he has as good a shot at being a bust as Hayward: 6-10, athletic, mostly unskilled (although he is developing a jumpshot) and mostly underachieved in college. Plus, I've read that some beat writers in NC said he didn't always play hard or work hard. If you're raw and undeveloped, you better work like a dog.
Luke Babbitt To me, this is the player Jay Bilas should've been comparing to Luke Jackson.
Cole AldrichFive years from now, I think he's still a backup center. Don't see alot of growth in his game and he doesn't have the elite or even above-average size to be a difference maker inside.
Xavier Henry Obviously talented and has Steve Smith-type size at the 2 and an NBA body but prefers to shoot 3's rather than drive or post-up, and isn't real quick or explosive. Could be a solid player but could easily be the next Shawne Williams.
Patrick Patterson Obviously the safe pick, but I laugh when I hear David Locke say "at worst he's Paul Millsap." I'd say at-worst he's Brandon Bass and at best he's Paul Millsap. Good pick for Houston because he can fill the Carl Landry-void, but I have to see how offseason plays out because I'd rather have Boozer/Millsap than Millsap/Patterson.

Hayward obviously has his faults but I'm willing to see how he pans out before comdemming this pick.
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There is no similarity between Luke Babbitt and Luke Jackson.

Babbitt is taller (6'9")
Babbitt is stronger (15 reps on bench press)
Babbitt has a much longer wingspan (6'11").
Babbitt is more athletic (37.5 inch vertical).
Babbitt is a better shooter (50% fg. 91% ft. 42% 3fg.)
Babbitt has more NBA offensive skills (post game, mid-range, long-range, 3-point, pull up jumper, off the dribble moves, better footwork, drives).

Gordon Hayward, on the other hand, is the same size as Luke Jackson (6'7"), plays exactly like Luke Jackson, has the same short wingspan (6'7"), similar athleticism and the same physical limitations that will be exposed at the NBA level, unfortunately for the Jazz.

Hayward is Luke Jackson.
 
cyclo said:
I am.

In 2001, the Jazz drafted Raul Lopez (24) over Gerald Wallace (25), Samuel Dalembert (26), Tony Parker (28), Gilbert Arenas (31).

In 2002, the Jazz drafted Ryan Humphrey (19) over Tayshaun Prince (23), John Salmons (26), Carlos Boozer (35), Matt Barnes (46), Rasual Butler (53), Luis Scola (56).

In 2003, the Jazz drafted Aleksandar Pavlovic (19) over Boris Diaw (21), Travis Outlaw (23), Kendrick Perkins (27), Leandro Barbosa (28), Josh Howard (29).

In 2004, the Jazz drafted Kris Humphires (14) and Kirk Snyder (16) over Josh Smith (17), JR Smith (18), Jameer Nelson (20), Tony Allen (25), Kevin Martin (26), Anderson Varejeo (31), Trevor Ariza (44).

In 2007, the Jazz drafted Morris Almond (25) over Aaron Brooks (26), Carl Landry (31), Glen Davis (35), Marc Gasol (48), Ramon Sessions (56).

In 2008, the Jazz drafted Kosta Koufos (23) over Nicolas Batum (25), George Hill (26), Goran Dragic (45).

In 2009, the Jazz drafted Eric Maynor (20) over Darren Collison (21), Rodrigue Beaubois (25), Taj Gibson (26), Dejuan Blair (37), Marcus Thornton (43), Chase Budinger (44).

So don't tell me the Jazz know what they're doing in the draft.
The Jazz haven't a clue what they're doing.
Hayward will prove to be one of the biggest busts of all time as you can expect at least a dozen of the players drafted after him to end up better players in the NBA.
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This evaluation is the same as your wife ragging on you becuase the neighbor down the street is much taller than you. The other neighbor down the street is nicer to his wife than you, the other neighbor down the street makes more money than you, and still another neighbor down the street is better with the kids than you and even more so, yet another neighbor down the street is even better to sleep with than you... I don't think KOC has been a good drafter, but i don't think the draft position, that you could go back and see if ANYONE was a good drafter over time. And there's probably some.
 
Harcher said:
This evaluation is the same as your wife ragging on you becuase the neighbor down the street is much taller than you. The other neighbor down the street is nicer to his wife than you, the other neighbor down the street makes more money than you, and still another neighbor down the street is better with the kids than you and even more so, yet another neighbor down the street is even better to sleep with than you... I don't think KOC has been a good drafter, but i don't think the draft position, that you could go back and see if ANYONE was a good drafter over time. And there's probably some.
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Regardless, the Jazz have a horrible draft history -- one of the worst in the league -- as the history shows.
 
My two picks were Patterson and Babbitt

Patterson was to me the most liekly to be a player in the league - even though he's a Milsap twin, if he's an NBA quality player, he's tradable. I just think you need to get a player.
Babbit is physically skills - traditional athelticsm and hand-eye. He's a 91% FT shooter. I think a 6 9" guy who shoots 91% from the line (averaging big mins per game and plenty of attempts) along with 37" vertical will have game in NBA.

Haward had some intrigue for me becuase of he is surrounded by winning. But it is hard for an internet researcher like myself to search the web the pre-draft measurments of "winning attributes." I do think he'll become a legit shooter.

Ed Davis is my defn of bust: All the physical attributes but has never shown any real basketball prowess.
Paul George was the shocker of the draft for me. He scorred 4 pts against Utah St in a route by the Aggies. If you were ANY BIT COMPETITIVE (with top 10 NBApick talent) WOULDN"T YOU JUST SAY "GIVE ME THE XXXX BALL?????" and proceed to make somethign happen. People blame the coaching at Fresno, but that single game was more evidence of his skill/competitiveness. I'll be shocked if he even gets playing time ever.
 
cyclo said:
Regardless, the Jazz have a horrible draft history -- one of the worst in the league -- as the history shows.
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2001
First Round: Tyson Chandler, Dominguez H.S. (CA) (2) (Gasol 3)

2002
First Round: Chris Wilcox, Maryland (8) (from Atlanta)
Melvin Ely, Fresno State (12) (Amare 9)

2004
First Round: Shaun Livingston, Peoria High School (IL) (4) (Devin Harris 5)

2005
First Round: Yaroslav Korolev, CSKA Moscow (Russia) (12) (Granger 17)

2007
First Round: Al Thornton, Florida State (14) (Stuckey 15)

2008
First Round: Eric Gordon, Indiana (7) (Lopez 10)

And that was the first team I looked at.
 
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