Oh I agree that it is scary and not what they would have chosen to use as a distraction. But since it's here...
I just have 0 faith in DC
Roy Moore justifications
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Oh I agree that it is scary and not what they would have chosen to use as a distraction. But since it's here...
I just have 0 faith in DC
The Thriller
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Most polls have Doug Jones ahead now. Hopefully this continues! It would be nice if Alabama could provide us with someone other than twice impeached pedophile repub judge!
Dude, it's Alabama. They are sitting there wondering if it's better to elect a teen sexual abuser* or a Democrat. My money is on the sexual abuser.
*pedophiles are people attracted to prepubescent children. Basically kids who do not show any signs of sexual maturity. Yeah, that's a distinction that maybe doesn't need to be made, especially since the law differs from the clinical diagnosis, but there is nothing to indicate that Roy Moore was ever attracted to prepubescent children.
DutchJazzer
Banned
Right on cue,
Trump saying that Roy Moore denies the allegations (those women are dirty rotten liars, the lot of 'em) and we don't need a liberal Democrat in that seat.
I bet that thinking wins the day in a red state. It would work in Utah.
Trump saying that Roy Moore denies the allegations (those women are dirty rotten liars, the lot of 'em) and we don't need a liberal Democrat in that seat.
I bet that thinking wins the day in a red state. It would work in Utah.
DutchJazzer
Banned
is it proven? innocent until proven guitly!
it didnt matter when clinton was proven guiltu! so democrats liberals and socialist should shut the **** up until he is proven guilty!
Of course you're just wrong about both "believe" assertions. Well, I said I believe Moore did stuff somewhere long ago because I think (not fact checked) he was a marine at Subic in the Philippines. But what I believe without evidence is absolutely worthless. Trump is a politician. If he says he "believes" Putin, or anyone else, I am absolutely positive it's diplomatic blandishment.... hey could we start a new internet shortcut.... replace " bs " with "db".
I wouldn't lose a microsecond of the Sleep of The Just I enjoy whenever I sit down nowadays believing Trump believes anything. He does not have the character to link words with actions unless there's good reason to expect it'll pay for America. As in totally practical, zero ideological.
Until it could all be established in a serious context under the rare if not non-existent supervision of a Judge with enough character to follow rules of evidence I don't really believe anything. uhhmmmm..... and well, even not then.
Putin did hack our election, and interfere with it. The company he controls did a deal with some RINOs and some Brits to make up some crap about Trump, which the Dems apparently paid for, and used, as well. And hell, if they didn't do crap like that, I'd wonder what reality really is.
No American citizen should ever vote for a democrat (or anyone) because they're saints. They is Aints. (no offense to the great JFC "Ain'tnothin')
HAHAHA
babe thinks Roy Moore "did stuff" because he maybe was a marine in Subic Bay in the Philippines... Not because of the, what is it?, four women who have come forward with their personal accounts of his abuse, nor one of his colleges from that time who said it was well known Moore was "on the prowl" for young girls. Because he was a marine in Subic Bay...
babe thinks Roy Moore "did stuff" because he maybe was a marine in Subic Bay in the Philippines... Not because of the, what is it?, four women who have come forward with their personal accounts of his abuse, nor one of his colleges from that time who said it was well known Moore was "on the prowl" for young girls. Because he was a marine in Subic Bay...
You still have no evidence. Hearsay is not evidence. None of it is admissible in a court of law, none of those accounts will ever be litigated.
Ted Kennedy left a 19-year old girl trapped in an air bubble in an overturned car for ten hours without seeking emergency help. She was still faintly breathing when the emergency crew got her out, after the dawn showed the wreck to a fisherman who did report it. He was a married man out on a midnight cruise to an isolated beach. He was honored by the Senate, just two weeks ago, which still has little thought going on in regard to abuse of women by powerful men.
Political power and influence kept him from facing manslaughter charges, and no newspaper crusade was mounted to make the world safe for stupid young women who ride around in the night with tipsy married men running to be Prez of the USA.
I know one man who is still in jail, I'm told, on false charges made by a woman who has made a career.... one man after another....telling lies about men. The case was so badly handled in the courts the appeals lawyer was telling his family that the case would get some policemen fired, our AG in a scandal, and some perjurers in jail themselves.........
well, that is, until that lawyer was offered a nice job in the AG office..... and recused himself from the case.
Who the hell knows what the truth is.
I guess I am a troll. I don't know if B. was a sailor or a marine, but I bet he's heard of Subic.
I was never at Subic. The closest I got was a little fishing/rice village twenty miles away. I heard a lot of stories though. And I'm sure B. agrees that we should believe every story we're told, well.... at least those told by some member of a special sympathy set, especially from 40 years ago.
OK, I'll tell some.
I got on a plane once, and flew 10,000 miles more or less, which landed in the Philippines. It was 1970.
Too late, I realized that I had been abducted by a deep dark devilish cult. I was handed a Book of Mormon, and told to tell everybody it was true, translated from gold plates. I was surrounded by trusted members of the cult who did an all-out mind-control programming method on me, my passport was locked in the vault in the headquarters so I couldn't go anywhere..... my money had to be kept there too because.... well.... Americans were the fav target of every pickpocket, thief, and burglar, and the police were worthless.
Everything that gang said, they said they knew it was true, in the name of Jesus Christ, however weird it sounded to me. If I said anything wrong they kicked me in the shins. Once a poor Filipino who was just a bit shy and not very comfortable trying to speak our language, got into the same trouble. My leader told him how to pray, and asked him to do it. Bowing our heads we waited...... well, we explained the procedure again, and waited again........ and again..... and yet again.....
Finally our timid host just rattled off the Lord's Prayer, which he had memorized in English.
My leader jumped up screaming...... NO!!!! THAT'S NOT RIGHT!!!!!! YOU DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT!!!!!!!
Our investigator was just about sobbing. We didn't like him.... whatever... he was trying to be nice.
I spoke up and praised him. told him he did it very well and that we appreciated him.
My leader was furious. He stormed outta there... I followed..... I was supposed to follow. He got pretty outta control.....
told me some months later he'd never come so close to killing someone in his life...... well.... I hope not.
My next "leader" was sorta "gay". He had some friends.....he liked to go to massage parlors. He didn't beat me to within an inch of my life though.
I was wondering what I could make of the situation, and since I had the Book of Mormon and D&C in my bag, I'd pull it out and read it while I sat in the lobby at the Kakura steam bath..... A girl named Yolanda came up to me while she had a chance to speak to me alone..... begged "Please help me get outta here.... These people are gonna kill me."
I didn't know my way around, had no where I could go, even. A lot of businesses were run by gangsters there.... cafes, restaurants, barber shops.... A lot of young Filipina women, hardly 16 years old I bet, even, go to the city to try to find a job to help their farmer parents and families, and show up at these places. They are hired. They are carefully trained to wait tables, give pedicures, whatever. And how to smile at customers..... especially how to smile. If they get very good at that, maybe they are offered a raise to do massages.....or more. That's how the Yolandas of the third world get their start.......
I dunno.... maybe she was working a more sophisticated gig on me. If she got me to walk out the door with her, who knows...... maybe they'd call the cops and call it kidnapping or whatever..... maybe they'd call the cab company and tell them where their driver should take us.... to the Pier, say.... where they'd be waiting. Who knows. Every American is rich. Every American has family Stateside, who'll pay ransom....
I still dunno..... maybe she'd show me the way to get her home..... where she'd tell her parents she's been with me all along, and I'm the father of her unborn babe-to-be seven months thence....
I do know one story though, that I do believe...... a woman about 28, a long-time prostitute by trade..... was about to kill herself.... she said.... But an angel appeared in her room, and showed her a book. It was a copy of the Book of Mormon.
He said this would be her way out, her only way out to a good life.
A few days later, some rather dopish, inexperienced boys with name tags on white shirts knocked on her door. One was gay, the other thought he was in hell. But they had a Book of Mormon, and when she saw it she just broke down sobbing, begging them to help her.
She did make a complete turn. A lot of people believed her story. A lot of people became Mormons.
I like Pence. He has good sense. He doesn't walk on the wild side at all. I dunno about Moore. Sessions is a complete phake, I mean phony, I'm so disappointed with him. But Moore gets my sympathy if, on his first year or so stateside, he kissed some 14-yr old or whatever. I don't know if she said she was 19. I bet she looked older. Who knows. I don't know anything, I just highly suspect the stories. If I were a lass and I wanted to be believed, I'd pick a better time to bring it out....oh, say 40 years ago.... or one,say. It all sounds so horribly minor compared to the very very heartrending sistuations I've seen in this life..... and..... If his memory is like mine, and his wife is like mine, he should just be forgiven. Let's move on with some issues, please.
I was never at Subic. The closest I got was a little fishing/rice village twenty miles away. I heard a lot of stories though. And I'm sure B. agrees that we should believe every story we're told, well.... at least those told by some member of a special sympathy set, especially from 40 years ago.
OK, I'll tell some.
I got on a plane once, and flew 10,000 miles more or less, which landed in the Philippines. It was 1970.
Too late, I realized that I had been abducted by a deep dark devilish cult. I was handed a Book of Mormon, and told to tell everybody it was true, translated from gold plates. I was surrounded by trusted members of the cult who did an all-out mind-control programming method on me, my passport was locked in the vault in the headquarters so I couldn't go anywhere..... my money had to be kept there too because.... well.... Americans were the fav target of every pickpocket, thief, and burglar, and the police were worthless.
Everything that gang said, they said they knew it was true, in the name of Jesus Christ, however weird it sounded to me. If I said anything wrong they kicked me in the shins. Once a poor Filipino who was just a bit shy and not very comfortable trying to speak our language, got into the same trouble. My leader told him how to pray, and asked him to do it. Bowing our heads we waited...... well, we explained the procedure again, and waited again........ and again..... and yet again.....
Finally our timid host just rattled off the Lord's Prayer, which he had memorized in English.
My leader jumped up screaming...... NO!!!! THAT'S NOT RIGHT!!!!!! YOU DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT!!!!!!!
Our investigator was just about sobbing. We didn't like him.... whatever... he was trying to be nice.
I spoke up and praised him. told him he did it very well and that we appreciated him.
My leader was furious. He stormed outta there... I followed..... I was supposed to follow. He got pretty outta control.....
told me some months later he'd never come so close to killing someone in his life...... well.... I hope not.
My next "leader" was sorta "gay". He had some friends.....he liked to go to massage parlors. He didn't beat me to within an inch of my life though.
I was wondering what I could make of the situation, and since I had the Book of Mormon and D&C in my bag, I'd pull it out and read it while I sat in the lobby at the Kakura steam bath..... A girl named Yolanda came up to me while she had a chance to speak to me alone..... begged "Please help me get outta here.... These people are gonna kill me."
I didn't know my way around, had no where I could go, even. A lot of businesses were run by gangsters there.... cafes, restaurants, barber shops.... A lot of young Filipina women, hardly 16 years old I bet, even, go to the city to try to find a job to help their farmer parents and families, and show up at these places. They are hired. They are carefully trained to wait tables, give pedicures, whatever. And how to smile at customers..... especially how to smile. If they get very good at that, maybe they are offered a raise to do massages.....or more. That's how the Yolandas of the third world get their start.......
I dunno.... maybe she was working a more sophisticated gig on me. If she got me to walk out the door with her, who knows...... maybe they'd call the cops and call it kidnapping or whatever..... maybe they'd call the cab company and tell them where their driver should take us.... to the Pier, say.... where they'd be waiting. Who knows. Every American is rich. Every American has family Stateside, who'll pay ransom....
I still dunno..... maybe she'd show me the way to get her home..... where she'd tell her parents she's been with me all along, and I'm the father of her unborn babe-to-be seven months thence....
I do know one story though, that I do believe...... a woman about 28, a long-time prostitute by trade..... was about to kill herself.... she said.... But an angel appeared in her room, and showed her a book. It was a copy of the Book of Mormon.
He said this would be her way out, her only way out to a good life.
A few days later, some rather dopish, inexperienced boys with name tags on white shirts knocked on her door. One was gay, the other thought he was in hell. But they had a Book of Mormon, and when she saw it she just broke down sobbing, begging them to help her.
She did make a complete turn. A lot of people believed her story. A lot of people became Mormons.
I like Pence. He has good sense. He doesn't walk on the wild side at all. I dunno about Moore. Sessions is a complete phake, I mean phony, I'm so disappointed with him. But Moore gets my sympathy if, on his first year or so stateside, he kissed some 14-yr old or whatever. I don't know if she said she was 19. I bet she looked older. Who knows. I don't know anything, I just highly suspect the stories. If I were a lass and I wanted to be believed, I'd pick a better time to bring it out....oh, say 40 years ago.... or one,say. It all sounds so horribly minor compared to the very very heartrending sistuations I've seen in this life..... and..... If his memory is like mine, and his wife is like mine, he should just be forgiven. Let's move on with some issues, please.
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Dude, I was a Sailor. I've heard of Subic Bay (not sure why you keep calling it Subic). A good friend and old salt, FC1 Scotty served there many years and met his wife there. He told stories of his younger days when he'd leave base on a Friday evening with a bag of oranges and some chocolates and tempt a young local woman into keeping him for the weekend.
Old sailors tell fun stories like that. It's kind of what they do.
They told stories of pulling into Australia. They said there was a horde of women on the pier and you'd tuck a piece of paper into you Dixie cup with you name on it and toss it into the crowd. When you got to shore you'd find the girl who caught you cover and she'd take you in for the duration of your shore leave.
I pulled into Australia. First off, I was on a carrier and it couldn't pull into port because it was too big, so we anchored off-shore and took liberty boats in. There we ZERO women waiting for us. I'm pretty big on eavesdropping, and I listened to a few lasses conversations while we took the train from the pier into town in Perth. Kind of eyebrow raising, in their sexual candor, tbh. While in Perth I spent most of my time at the Bersword Casino. In that casino there is an Irish themed pub. While there, drinking with my shipmates, a drunk local walked by the entrance saying "And the ****s think we want them here... stupid sailors." Eye opening again.
Anyway, man. You've been more places than anyone could have been in 200 years. So cool stories. I'm not calling BS, really, just saying.
I've been where I've been and I can 100% corroborate every thing I say. You seem like you're telling sea stories, mate. I'll just leave it at that.
Old sailors tell fun stories like that. It's kind of what they do.
They told stories of pulling into Australia. They said there was a horde of women on the pier and you'd tuck a piece of paper into you Dixie cup with you name on it and toss it into the crowd. When you got to shore you'd find the girl who caught you cover and she'd take you in for the duration of your shore leave.
I pulled into Australia. First off, I was on a carrier and it couldn't pull into port because it was too big, so we anchored off-shore and took liberty boats in. There we ZERO women waiting for us. I'm pretty big on eavesdropping, and I listened to a few lasses conversations while we took the train from the pier into town in Perth. Kind of eyebrow raising, in their sexual candor, tbh. While in Perth I spent most of my time at the Bersword Casino. In that casino there is an Irish themed pub. While there, drinking with my shipmates, a drunk local walked by the entrance saying "And the ****s think we want them here... stupid sailors." Eye opening again.
Anyway, man. You've been more places than anyone could have been in 200 years. So cool stories. I'm not calling BS, really, just saying.
I've been where I've been and I can 100% corroborate every thing I say. You seem like you're telling sea stories, mate. I'll just leave it at that.
DutchJazzer
Banned
lol, the left now suddenly caring about sexual misconduct. this is just funny!
i thouht democrats said character and sexual misconduct does not matter
i thouht democrats said character and sexual misconduct does not matter
Red
Well-Known Member
Moore is using the same strategy Trump used in the waning weeks of the 2016 election. Trump has been keeping up with the polls in Alabama, plus knowing Moore is not going to withdraw even if Trump said he should, it's likely the tea leaves say backing Moore is a good gamble by Trump. And the avalanche of sex harassment allegations dampens the impact of just one scandal alone, in this case Moore's. Add in local Alabama pride(shades of "don't tread on me" 1776). Moore wins, and the GOP continues to be under the thumb of Trump. Far more likely the GOP accepts the will of the people of Alabama, then drums him out of the Senate. 2018 should be the most tribal driven election imaginable. I think this CNN analysis describes the strategy very well.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/22/politics/roy-moore-trump-sexual-accusers/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/22/politics/roy-moore-trump-sexual-accusers/index.html
Red
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So, what's reality? And what isn't reality? This week, our fearless leader is once again hard at work defining reality as he sees fit. The evidence itself can pound salt. Last year, Trump said that was him on the Access Hollywood tape, and he regretted his words. Now? That wasn't him, as a new conspiracy theory is born. Delivered by our Conspiracy-Theorist-in-Chief:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/anal...resident-trump-seeks-define/story?id=51406316
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/anal...resident-trump-seeks-define/story?id=51406316
The crazy thing to me about Trump supporters is that they seldom seem to say they like his policies, think he's doing good things for the country so they forgive him these little "quirks." They act like his lies aren't lies. That his foolishness is actually cunning in disguise.
I mean here we are, Trump is now denying something he admitted to. Acting like it's all made up. It's pure insanity.
I mean here we are, Trump is now denying something he admitted to. Acting like it's all made up. It's pure insanity.
Trump supporters have Stockholm Syndrome. They've been repeatedly used and lied to by their own party, and now they've full on embraced the guy who will screw them over worse than anyone ever has. Trump. He's now their living embodiment. Look at Trump, a total joke in the American mainstream, really great at trash TV (the stupid **** Trump supporters watch), a funny looking outcast who overcompensates for his obvious low self esteem. Hell, Obama made him look like a fool in front of the world, and he back for revenge. Just like Trump supporters, Obama and Dems have been steam rolling your asses for 8 years, now, sick and diseased from getting destroyed from both sides, you've chosen a leader in your own image. This orange, pathetic, heartless, predatory fat sack is you, and you'll do anything to justify its existence and prove why its not your fault. It's all a sad and sick joke.
And thats just it, Trump supporters aren't looking to MAGA, they are looking for payback. All the people they despise got all the attention during Obama (minorities, LGBTQ, and women), and now he's here to roll it all back for them. Funny thing is overturning Executive Orders, which is all he's capable of, are short lived hollow victories that do nothing but fire up the base and can be easily changed back by the next guy. Trump supporters are fickle, angry, losers watching the world pass them by. The *** of the human centipede.
They know this is all true. Just look at JFC, we only have 2 losers who are so weak minded, riddled with Obama PTSD they outright defend the guy no matter what. The rest of them hide in the shadows because deep down they know they're pathetic losers.
SAD.
And thats just it, Trump supporters aren't looking to MAGA, they are looking for payback. All the people they despise got all the attention during Obama (minorities, LGBTQ, and women), and now he's here to roll it all back for them. Funny thing is overturning Executive Orders, which is all he's capable of, are short lived hollow victories that do nothing but fire up the base and can be easily changed back by the next guy. Trump supporters are fickle, angry, losers watching the world pass them by. The *** of the human centipede.
They know this is all true. Just look at JFC, we only have 2 losers who are so weak minded, riddled with Obama PTSD they outright defend the guy no matter what. The rest of them hide in the shadows because deep down they know they're pathetic losers.
SAD.
Trump admitted to kissing women and grabbing women's vagina's without asking, because he was famous. There's evidence and 12+ accusers of sexual assault. Regardless of what policy he puts in place, what deals he's able to broker, this fact makes him a piece of **** human and anyone who supports him is the same.
DutchJazzer
Banned
where is the proof?
he said their was consent!
THEY LET YOU. i think that qualifies as consent!