For everyone interested in knowing Enes better in terms of basketball (except nike summits)

[franklin]

Yes, Sullinger and Barnes were at the Summit to, same size they are now, and Kanter dominated them.

Dominated Barnes? Please. Will he dominate the next Earl Boykins too? Kanter was guarded mainly by Meyers Leonard in the '10 NHS. Leonard was 7' and looked about 160 lbs. Enes "The Istanbull" Kanter simply pushed Leonard aside, as he should have.

i think he is in the millsap work hard
if u ask why, i tell u ;
if a guy rejected a really astronomical deal at the age of 16, (which would attach him to Fenerbahce, his team in turkey, for 5 yrs) and if he went all the way down to us, to participate in ncaa knowing he will probably be ineligible, but still trying his small chance because he set his goal to nba, then i believe he would work really hard to make his mark in nba.

I've been highly critical of Kanter but I'll give you this. There is nothing to indicate the kid doesn't work hard. He has a solid figure and a soft shot. This tells us he's willing to do what it takes, if it says anything at all. Also, thanks for the background on passing up a contract. How "astronomical" exactly was it?

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

There is nothing to indicate the kid doesn't work hard. He has a solid figure and a soft shot.

here's another guy who works hard:

Fitness plays a part too, even for a workaholic like...

"I wanted to come in this summer, and then training camp, and be in the best shape I've been in."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...oufos-is-working-hard-to-get-better.html?pg=2

He has great touch around the basket...

He is an excellent free throw shooter, can hit the three ball, and has a nice midrange jumper Hes got great hands, decent post moves, and a consistent touch around the basket as well...

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/kosta-koufos

 

[franklin]

What's your point? Don't work hard? If you work hard you'll end up like Koufus? Eat donuts all day? What?

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

What's your point? Don't work hard? If you work hard you'll end up like Koufus? Eat donuts all day? What?

the point is: just because a player works hard and has a soft shot it doesn't mean he's going to be any good (see: Doufos).

there is a chance Kanter will turn out to be a good NBA player. other guys in this draft, like Williams, have put up real numbers/results (30 PER) against real competition in real games (several seasons in the PAC-10). it seems crazy to me to rate an unknown like Kanter ahead of someone else who has already really done something.

anyway, i think i'm preaching to the choir here (sepanol and underKANTER excluded).

 

[franklin]

the point is: just because a player works hard and has a soft shot it doesn't mean he's going to be any good (see: Doufos).

there is a chance Kanter will turn out to be a good NBA player. other guys in this draft, like Williams, have put up real numbers/results (30 PER) against real competition in real games (several seasons in the PAC-10). it seems crazy to me to rate an unknown like Kanter ahead of someone else who has already really done something.

anyway, i think i'm preaching to the choir here (sepanol and underKANTER excluded).

Sure, but I was going back to Ben10's comment that Kanter's work ethic is unknown. I don't think it should be a question mark at this point. I have plenty other reasons for not wanting him on the Jazz though.

You're not preaching to the choir. There was nothing but giddiness over Kanter 2 days ago, and we're still in the minority.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Can you please find another team to be a fan of and take your kanter banter with you over there?

It's all good. Maybe sepanol (and underKANTER) are this year's equivalent of Honzward. We were all hating on Gordon Hayward a year ago - except Honzward. And it certainly looks like we were dead wrong. I'm not counting on Memo playing much next season...coming back from a terrible injury and with a history of back problems. Jazz would have room for Kanter: Memo replaces Fes and Kanter takes Elson's roster spot. Also, injuries happen during the year and Kanter and Favors will probably both have foul trouble. Count on Jefferson for 35 mins, Millsap for 30 , Favors at 20-25 and Kanter at 10-15 as a rookie. If Millsap plays half his minutes at SF, that still leaves 15 for Memo (assuming all are healthy for all 82 games, which won't be the case).

I'm gonna trust KOC on this one. He was right about Deron, was trying to trade up for Favors and when he couldn't (fortunately?), picked a keeper in Hayward. If he takes Knight over Kanter, I'll support the pick. If Kanter or Williams are there at #3 and he takes either, I'll be happy. And if he then takes Singleton, Jimmer, Burks or some other player at #12, I'll be happy with that pick.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Dominated Barnes? Please. Will he dominate the next Earl Boykins too? Kanter was guarded mainly by Meyers Leonard in the '10 NHS. Leonard was 7' and looked about 160 lbs. Enes "The Istanbull" Kanter simply pushed Leonard aside, as he should have.

Exactly, and that's what people are underestimating Kanter on. They guy may not be 7' but will come into the league at 260 lbs at just 18. Few big men have the frame to even get to that weight without losing all their athleticism. Combine that with his elite footwork and Okur like shooting and you have mad potential there.